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Old 01.05.2008
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Gun Control

THIS STORY EXEMPLIFIES GUN CONTROL AS IT SHOULD BE.

Shooting in Butte , Montana

Shotgun preteen vs. illegal alien Home Invaders Butte, Montana
November 5,
2006

Two illegal aliens, Ralphel Resindez, 23, and Enrico Garza, 26, probably
believed they would easily overpower home-alone 11 year old Patricia
Harrington after her father had left their two-story home.

It seems the two crooks never learned two things: they were in
Montana and
Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine.

Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the
front
door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's room and grabbed
his 12
gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun. Resindez was the first to get up to the
second floor only to be the first
to catch a near point blank blast of buckshot from the 11-year-old's
knee
crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals.

When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left
shoulder and staggered out into the street where he bled to death
before medical
help could arrive.

It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a stolen 45 caliber
handgun he took from another home invasion robbery. That victim, 50-
year-old David
Burien, was not so lucky. He died from stab wounds to the chest.

Ever wonder why good stuff never makes NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, or
ABC news....

Now that is Gun Control

Thought for the day



Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug
dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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i love to see these home invasion stories. it's nice too see the home owner, per say, get the better of them. i hope nothing legally bad happens to her.

illegal ? i see our borders are really working here. we might have to put up a berlin wall to keep them out.
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Great story..

and good thing that girl had a cool head and knew what to do. The kids are smarter than the adults. Just like the movie except there won't be a sequel.
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I don't know how you live with killing two people that young, though. I've heard it's ALWAYS hard, even as a police officer, so I hope she's okay with what happened, knowing she was in the right.

Who leaves an 11 year old home alone????? It's illegal to do that up here. 11 is too young to have to deal with being home alone, IMHO.

14 is the age here to leave a kid home alone.
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Yes but in this...

situation, if she didn't kill them they might have killed her. They already killed someone prior. 11 years old....hhmm... she's probably in 5th or 6th grade. A little young I guess. Good thing she knew how to shoot though. They had a gun on them too. It was either her or them.
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I don't know how you live with killing two people that young, though. I've heard it's ALWAYS hard, even as a police officer, so I hope she's okay with what happened, knowing she was in the right.

Who leaves an 11 year old home alone????? It's illegal to do that up here. 11 is too young to have to deal with being home alone, IMHO.

14 is the age here to leave a kid home alone.
better to be in therapy for a few years then in a coffin

i was able to take care of my self fairly well by 11 i could cook myself a meal and knew how to deal with cuts and other small things like that. i don't know maybe im an oddity.
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Not at all...so could I, so could my siblings.

I'd bet she'll handle this better than most adults. Children adapt far more easily than most realize...my wife is living proof.
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WOW! Quite a story for sure! I hope the girl is getting counseling, it'll definitely be rough on her.

I was home alone alot(probably way too much) at 11....and the 3 of my kids who have reached/past 11 yrs old have been responsible enough/able to stay home alone at various times. We have no laws here declaring an actual age for staying home alone. It definitely should be a child by child decision and not taken lightly!
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I don't know how you live with killing two people that young, though. I've heard it's ALWAYS hard, even as a police officer, so I hope she's okay with what happened, knowing she was in the right.

Who leaves an 11 year old home alone????? It's illegal to do that up here. 11 is too young to have to deal with being home alone, IMHO.

14 is the age here to leave a kid home alone.
You forget where she lives. 11 may be too young for the chidren where you live but the father obviously felt his daughter was mature enough to be left unattended. Most people can correctly judge the maturity level of their children and if they can handle being unattended.

The father in this story could have left to go across the street to the neighbors. We don't know but the point is irrelevant.

The girl knew how to handle the situation because she probably from birth has been taught responsibility and what to do in all kinds of situations.

You must be a city dweller, or I should say urbanized individual.
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better to be in therapy for a few years then in a coffin

i was able to take care of my self fairly well by 11 i could cook myself a meal and knew how to deal with cuts and other small things like that. i don't know maybe im an oddity.
I grew up with 3 siblings, I'm the youngest and when I was 11 I already knew how to care for all types of firearms (as my grandfather was a gunsmith and my father fire had us fire a gun when I was 6), we could all cook and knew what to do in situations ranging from an intruder to a fire to injuries.

Our mother worked at night, our father wasn't around, and we were alone from the time she left at 2100 til she got back from work at 0600. The worse that ever happened was when my brother snuck out and we wouldn't let him back in. But our mother taught us responsibilty and what to do in any and all emergencies. We could be trusted. But if any of us had not been ready we would have stayed at grandma's house.
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