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Old 09.04.2008
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Schneider paid my ticket, and pleaded guilty on my behalf

Long story short, a few weeks ago i got a ticket in Tennessee for speeding, I had planned on fighting the ticket to get it reduced to a non-moving violation, and i just found out that over the holiday weekend my company (schneider) decided to take it among themselves to pay the ticket for me (they said they paid it on monday 9/1/0 and they pleaded guilty on my behalf without my knowledge or my consent, tomorrow morning i am going to be contacting the courts to see if i can still fight it, and if i can, my next phone call will be to a local attorney in tn to get the ticket taken care of.

the thing that pissed me off the most is they paid the ticket for me without telling me or my authorization, but they had the nerve to tell me i now owe them $190 for the ticket, and that it would be taken out of my pay

my big question is, what schneider did has to be illegal, can i sue them for this, and should i ?
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I doubt you can sue, but in reality the agreement that was made is not legal unlesss you signed a power of attorney or some type document that allowed them to represent you.

Contact the Attorney General of the county where the ticket issued or consult with an attorney.
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Hmm, there is more to this than you're telling us.

Like, how did Schneider know the ticket number? Did you send a copy/original to them?

How did they learn of the ticket. A ticket, is a notice to appear. Not a conviction (although it should be called that). You're not "required" to notify them (Schneider) of "an order to appear". Thats why cops get so pissed when you refuse to sign LOL.... You're acknowledging your notice to appear, not pay the fine.

Until you have pleaded the case, it remains open. Unless someone represents you in court, or pays the fine, which requires supporting documents.

Failing to appear or pay the fine results in a bench warrant.

Many companies do this for you, if you send a ticket in to them. It saves you both time and possible suspension. It's not uncommon. But it is odd if they acted without input of any kind from you.
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yup they paid it its there pennies if they want them back they have to take you to court and sue you for them it is illegal to make any deductions from payroll unless it directly benefits the employee unless ordered by a court ie child support the legal deductions are health life insurance taxes medicade and retirement
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Hmm, there is more to this than you're telling us.

Like, how did Schneider know the ticket number? Did you send a copy/original to them?

How did they learn of the ticket. A ticket, is a notice to appear. Not a conviction (although it should be called that). You're not "required" to notify them (Schneider) of "an order to appear". Thats why cops get so pissed when you refuse to sign LOL.... You're acknowledging your notice to appear, not pay the fine.

Until you have pleaded the case, it remains open. Unless someone represents you in court, or pays the fine, which requires supporting documents.

Failing to appear or pay the fine results in a bench warrant.

Many companies do this for you, if you send a ticket in to them. It saves you both time and possible suspension. It's not uncommon. But it is odd if they acted without input of any kind from you.

I'm interested in the response as well, although I don't believe a ticket should be taken as a violation, a conviction is. Schneider may have the information available on pending tickets through the insurance company, if they acted on that, without the consent of the driver, what they did was illegal, in my understanding. If they received the information from the driver, then it would not be a clear cut case of wrongdoing on the part of Schneider.
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I'm interested in the response as well, although I don't believe a ticket should be taken as a violation, a conviction is. Schneider may have the information available on pending tickets through the insurance company, if they acted on that, without the consent of the driver, what they did was illegal, in my understanding. If they received the information from the driver, then it would not be a clear cut case of wrongdoing on the part of Schneider.
Only to the point that they agreed to the conviction on behalf of the driver. This requires legal documents to do this.
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Only to the point that they agreed to the conviction on behalf of the driver. This requires legal documents to do this.
I know this is a technicality, but he wasn't required by regulations to notify Schneider until a period of time after a conviction for a moving violation.
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I know this is a technicality, but he wasn't required by regulations to notify Schneider until a period of time after a conviction for a moving violation.

FMCSA requires this notification to be made within 30 days. However, I know alot of drivers never tell the company and get caught by the annual certification.
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FMCSA requires this notification to be made within 30 days. However, I know alot of drivers never tell the company and get caught by the annual certification.
Right, you are up on the regs, you also know that a ticket reduced to non-moving need not be reported. The information is available for law enforcement to give them some discretion, not for insurance companies to hang a driver out to dry just because they can. A driver shouldn't lose his job because of a warning, but it does happen.
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Right, you are up on the regs, you also know that a ticket reduced to non-moving need not be reported. The information is available for law enforcement to give them some discretion, not for insurance companies to hang a driver out to dry just because they can. A driver shouldn't lose his job because of a warning, but it does happen.

That is what bothers me most about this thread. I don't understand why the company had anything to do with the ticket. Most of the drivers don't seem to understand the cost to their driving ability for each ticket. They need to fight or change them all. However, in reality, just don't do it.

They will be amazed how many companies will jump through hoops for a driver who has a clean driving record. Their insurance companies love them.
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