Originally Posted by Pyro

I am posting this in hopes it saves at least one person from making the mistake of Arrow trucking. I loaded a coil that was 44620lbs. which I secured with five chains. One pulling straight down, two towards the front and two towards the rear. I tarped the load and left. After delivering the load a day early I went to the terminal in Tulsa (I delivered right down the road in Sand Springs) to get a steering tire replaced and a PM done. Once at the terminal I was informed another Arrow driver contacted my DM and gave my truck number and said I had insufficiant securement on my coil. I asked my DM if this worthl;ess rat mentioned how many chains I did have, and he said yes the driver said you had five. My response was so why are we having this conversation. To make a long story short I had to draw a diagram, show the load securement regulations, and do the math for him before he finally realized that five chains was legally sufficiant for the coil I had. This and many other reasons are why I am looking for a new job and leaving these incompetant morons ASAP

Originally Posted by Brickman

5 chains isn't enough. Unless you are using far heavier chains than most do the load rating is 5400 lbs. 5 chains is good for 25,000 lbs. To proper secure that much weight you would need 8.25 chains, round that up to 9. Thats for standard 3/8" chains. If you were using 1/2" then 5 chains would have been enough. 1/2" is rated at 9200 lbs for standard grade.

Your company may not have been as stupid and incompetent as you think.

Originally Posted by Angeleyes

And who's fault is that?? Not Arrow's fault for sure...if Arrow would stop hiring incompantant students and start hiring more people like my hubby, the safty rating would be great....28 years, no accidents, no load claims, always on time, and respects other drivers...But they hire students and incompatant people who don't know thier 5th wheel from the nose of their tractor. Scott can go anywhere he wants, so if Arrow does him wrong, it's no big deal, he would rather pull heavy haul like he used to anyway.......

Originally Posted by Sideswipe

You can't put more than seven chains on a coil. If you did put 8 and 9 on it , the holding power of those last two chains would be nill - because they would just slip down the coil and risk the viability of the rest.

Chain one before you train one!

Originally Posted by Sideswipe

If this "other" driver were worth a damn, he would have offered his help when he saw it. Some people are just backstabbers. It says alot more about his worthless life than it does about your chaining. Chances are, this driver is scared to death of coils, and Arrow trains a driver to use five chains - seven if it makes you feel better.

Originally Posted by Brickman

I stand corrected in my assumptions of chaining.

How ever since I was over securing no wonder I never had any cargo EVER fall off my trailer.

Originally Posted by thummper

even in ready mix I learned to talk with my company brethren about anything that would effect them, like, when working in a line to never pass the guy ahead of you, or letem know youre gonna burn 6 minutes getting a water or coffee. what goes around comes around. no honking, either, unless you like fist fights.