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    Big opportunity For CR England Lease Operators? Merged 3 threads

    Sorry about the double post, I'm new to this website too :0 I'm very new to the industry. I've worked for CR england less than 6 mo, worked very hard to get a dedicated lane through cr. this run entails 5100 miles per week avg, and $1.00 per mile as a lease operator, with some drop pay as well!! I have heard all the horror stories about england, which i now realize are not true and only written by... hmm certain types of individuals. anyways my question is would I be stupid to pass up on an opportunity like this.

    5100x$1.00 = 5,100 + avg drop pay= 5,180/weekly.

    $5,180 -
    $500 - truck payment
    800 Gal/fuel @ 1.25 per/gal= $1000
    maintenance@ 7cpm= $357
    variable mileage@14cpm= $714
    Insurance=$203
    fuel/road tax@1.5 cpm= $76.50
    workers comp=$80.77
    Licences, permits, fhut = $44.50
    Total expenses = $2,975

    $5180-$2,975= $2,205
    Employee pay.
    It varies, If I want to train or not.
    $2,205-$230-$850= $1,355-$1,975 weekly gross
    $5826.50-$8492.50 monthly gross.

    This is what I believe to be a fairly accurate assessment of my business model, any tips or advice would be very much appreciated.
    Last edited by bullhaulerswife; 01.27.2012 at 10.24 AM.

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    Where or shall I ask who, Did these numbers come from?

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    These numbers came from Horizon, a truck leasing company within the walls of cr england who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw a bobtail. This is exactly why I'm ASKING for advice from all of you, I'm new to this and very scared to lease. haha I'm going to be asking for a lease agreement (by the way which is about 90 pages long) and take it to my uncle who's a banker/financial advisor and get the real scoop on how potentially catastrophic the lease is. Because if these numbers are even close to correct.....

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    5100 divided by 7 days equals 728 miles a day. You would have to average 66 mph for all miles. Also you would be hitting your 70 hours in 5 days. Have you consider this in your figures?
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    Business opportunity?

    I'm very new to the industry. I've worked for CR england less than 6 mo, worked very hard to get a dedicated lane through cr. this run entails 5100 miles per week avg, and $1.00 per mile as a lease operator, with some drop pay as well!! I have heard all the horror stories about england, which i now realize are not true and only written by... hmm certain types of individuals. anyways my question is would I be stupid to pass up on an opportunity like this.

    5100x$1.00 = 5,100 + avg drop pay= 5,180/weekly.

    $5,180 -
    $500 - truck payment
    800 Gal/fuel @ 1.25 per/gal= $1000
    maintenance@ 7cpm= $357
    variable mileage@14cpm= $714
    Insurance=$203
    fuel/road tax@1.5 cpm= $76.50
    workers comp=$80.77
    Licences, permits, fhut = $44.50
    Total expenses = $2,975

    $5180-$2,975= $2,205
    Employee pay.
    It varies, If I want to train or not.
    $2,205-$230-$850= $1,355-$1,975 weekly gross
    $5826.50-$8492.50 monthly gross.

    This is what I believe to be a fairly accurate assessment of my business model, any tips or advice would be very much appreciated.

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    Well of course. It would actually only be a 6 day work week. It is not difficult at all for a team on a dedicated lane to run..lets see

    5100 divided by 6
    = 850.

    850 miles a day/team? No problem.

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    Where's your savings for a replacement vehicle?
    Where your allocation to pay for accounting fees, cell phone, internet, health insurance, fica, etc, etc, etc.

    Explain your arithmatical equation under employee pay>If I read it correctly your thoughts are you will have $2,205 left after you pay for the "truck" and then your driver gets $230, you get $850 and I'm not sure what the other numbers represent. I can't imagine what $230 a week gets you in driver wages.....

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    I'm very new to the industry. I've worked for CR england less than 6 mo, worked very hard to get a dedicated lane through cr. this run entails 5100 miles per week avg, and $1.00 per mile as a lease operator, with some drop pay as well!! I have heard all the horror stories about england, which i now realize are not true and only written by... hmm certain types of individuals. anyways my question is would I be stupid to pass up on an opportunity like this.

    5100x$1.00 = 5,100 + avg drop pay= 5,180/weekly.

    $5,180 -
    $500 - truck payment
    800 Gal/fuel @ 1.25 per/gal= $1000
    maintenance@ 7cpm= $357
    variable mileage@14cpm= $714
    Insurance=$203
    fuel/road tax@1.5 cpm= $76.50
    workers comp=$80.77
    Licences, permits, fhut = $44.50
    Total expenses = $2,975

    $5180-$2,975= $2,205
    Employee pay.
    It varies, If I want to train or not.
    $2,205-$230-$850= $1,355-$1,975 weekly gross
    $5826.50-$8492.50 monthly gross.

    This is what I believe to be a fairly accurate assessment of my business model, any tips or advice would be very much appreciated.

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    Your not getting fuel for $1.25 / gallon. Diesel is more like $3.86 / gallon ( based on todays avg) So your fuel, for 800 gal is going to be $3088 / wk

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullhaulerswife View Post
    Your not getting fuel for $1.25 / gallon. Diesel is more like $3.86 / gallon ( based on todays avg) So your fuel, for 800 gal is going to be $3088 / wk
    Obviously they buy @ that price and CRE keeps the surcharge or that's what they sold them.

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