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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Class Patriot View Post
    Like what Scottied said....The decal (CVSA) is for 2012.....Typically an L1 will put you in the "Good Graces" for at least 15 days with the coops...
    You should also received in addition to the decal, a copy of the report which is to be forwarded to your carrier or...If you are an O/O...Copy it and have one for your records at your "home" terminal...And one in your driver's binder to show the next inspector if requested....
    Hey WCP... the prob were trying to figure out is why would one of the posters get a CVSA sticker and a fine at the same time... thats whats confusing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRoadWarrior View Post
    Ahhhh Your wrong on this... You can have the sticker and still get inspected... its not a free pass by anymeans....
    For Cali based carriers....That decal is is usually a "Reward" for passing a BIT Program inspection...

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiDyzXTW3q8[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerardo1961 View Post
    I forget something,somebody can explain this .why I have $ 25.- to send to the court for what is this money to pay the dot officer tell me this is not a ticket,why I have to pay this money
    TTBOMK......If you pass an inspection....There are no fines issued.....

    Can you post word for word what the paper work states?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allow Me. View Post
    Yeah, if they cite you, even a minor violation, you pay. Ca. also charges you what would be the fine if you plead guilty and go to traffic school to keep it off your record, you still pay court fees etc. ( They have since quit letting CDL holders do this ).
    Do not...Again Do Not accept a Warning from any DOT officer if you receive an inspection....If you receive a warning as a result of an inspection...Insist that the officer write up a citation....I know this sounds weird to most of you but there is a good reason for this....Provided that you believe the "Violation" is unwarranted or incorrect...

    "Corrected" issues that were the result of a warning cannot be "Data Q-ued"...Citations can be "Data Q-ued" that is....After the carrier receives the citation, and then "corrects" (Proves) the violation received was in error.....The carrier can then "Data Q-ue" the citation back to the issuing officer who then, based on his determination can have the citation removed from the CSA records....

    Data Q’s The Data Q’s system is an electronic system that allows companies to challenge FMCSA data they believe is incorrect. This system is ongoing and is planned in the near future to allow drivers to also challenge data FMCSA maintains on individual drivers. The system is password protected, and companies can only view their data, not data on other companies. A new household goods challenge was added to comply with SAFETEA-LU requirements and a new challenge was added to identify and alert intrastate carriers of Federal requirements when they are traveling as interstate carriers. http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/facts-resea...is-Data-Qs.htm
    Let me give you an example....

    Say you did a pre-trip and recorded that pre-trip on your cell phone's video.....
    You cross a coop and get pulled in...DOT finds that you have a head lamp that is out on an L1....
    Even if you told the officer that you pre-tripped and found every thing serviceable....Because the way the laws are written in some states...Even with your notation on your inspection report...The officer will have to issue a warning or a citation....
    By asking for a citation you can then have a court appearance with a judge and the officer....Then you can present the judge with not only with your inspection report...But also the video of your inspection....Most cell phone videos these days have a "Time Stamp" to verify when the recording was made....
    In most cases like this...The judge would rule in your favor and recommend the citation be thrown out....
    Based on that...The carrier can then Data Q-ue the voided citation..The officer would accept the Data Q-ue challenge...Then the CSA scores would then be adjusted to reflect the successful challenge....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Class Patriot View Post
    For Cali based carriers....That decal is is usually a "Reward" for passing a BIT Program inspection...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiDyzXTW3q8
    What i was saying is it does not matter if you have the sticker ...i got one at banning scales and got hit with a dot inspection in Alabama at the super coop...I understand that for cali carriers its a gold star but you can still get inspected plain and simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Class Patriot View Post
    TTBOMK......If you pass an inspection....There are no fines issued.....

    Can you post word for word what the paper work states?
    i was looking the paperwork from dot .of the backside is writting...c.correctable violations.if the ,,yes,,box is checked on the front of you ticket,the violation is correctable.upon correction of the violation,have a law enforcement officer or an authorized inspection/installation station agend sign below........The violation will be dismissed by the court after PROFF OF CORRECTION and payment of a transaction fee are presented to the court by mail. in my ticket the box is checked with yes

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    So basically its just court costs. Another way of California making sure they at least get some money from you. I'd pay it and go on if not I think they'd make it worse.

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    Sounds to me like he got the fine for one of the violations he had road service fix. After he had it fixed he got the yellow sticker. Same thing happened to me. I got a warning at the bug station on 40,very fair lady BTW. She found a cracked rim but letme go on into Needles to get it fixed. I stopped at Tehachapi to have it signedby the scale master and he put the yellow sticker on my windshield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claytonr1973 View Post
    Sounds to me like he got the fine for one of the violations he had road service fix. After he had it fixed he got the yellow sticker. Same thing happened to me. I got a warning at the bug station on 40,very fair lady BTW. She found a cracked rim but letme go on into Needles to get it fixed. I stopped at Tehachapi to have it signedby the scale master and he put the yellow sticker on my windshield.
    the $ 25,- is a court fee what i have to pay ,not a fine,and the dot give me a green sticker with number 2

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    I've lived and trucked in California for 25 years. It's because you had a correctable violation, also known as a "fix-it ticket". The $25 is a fee paid to the local county court to process the paperwork, not a fine for the violation. You received a current CVSA sticker on your windshield because you passed the inspection after the road service truck fixed the violations on your truck. I would not recommend removing the sticker until you get inspected again and receive a new one. Having no sticker at all is just begging to be pulled in for another inspection, especially if you are an out of state truck. Having to call road service for a minor repair is much more detrimental to your profit than the $25 court fee. Do better pre-trip inspections, and keep your truck maintained and legal.
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