that is quite true for most advertised stuff, but there are mods that one can make that do improve things. Like the waste gate turbo on a DDEC IV Series 60 engine. Dump it and go with a larger T6 housing non waste gate turbo like the Borg Warner 171702. Open up the exhaust with high flow mufflers. Or many other similar things depending on what engine you have and other factors.
The snake oil in the tank, the magic tube in your fuel line stuff, I would agree with you totally. And, of course, your statement that implies the driver has more control than anything else in controlling mpg is spot on. There is no substitute for operating a truck properly. A newer truck will not overcome a stupid driver.
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i've used tranny fluid in fuel injection engines too. back in the day. when injection cleans used to be advertised. and fuel was dirty. tranny fluid worked wonders in fuel injection.
i would use it in my oil. during a 3000 mile duration. not just to warm up the engine. it takes 25 miles to have everything fully circulated through the entire engine.
my very first car had a rebuilt engine. it was winter time. and a total ###### to get started in the morning. when stoped for a light. the engine would die before taking off. changed the points and plugs. didn'[t help. changed the oil. 20 miles later the car quit dieing at stop lights. next morning she fired right up. who woulda thunk a simple oil change woulda fixed all my running problems.
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From Wikipedia: "Modern ATF typically contains a wide variety of chemical compounds intended to provide the required properties of a particular ATF specification. Most ATFs contain some combination of rust and corrosion[1]inhibitors, anti-foam additives, detergents, dispersants, anti-wear additives, anti-oxidation compounds, surfactants, cold-flow improvers, high-temperature thickeners and viscosity improvers[2], gasket conditioners and seal swell agents[3], pour point depressant[4]and petroleum dye. Most ATFs contain friction modifiers, but not Ford M2C33-F, M2C33-G, John Deere J-21A Manufacturer's Type ATFs, where the Manufacturer requirements are Type F (Ford-O-Matic) and Type G (Ford Europe) ATF. There are many specifications for ATF, such as the DEXRON and MERCON series, and the vehicle manufacturer will identify the ATF specification appropriate for each vehicle. The vehicle's owner's manual will typically list the ATF specification(s) that are recommended by the manufacturer.
Automatic transmission fluids have many performance-enhancing chemicals added to the fluid to meet the demands of each transmission."
So all that extra crap turns into ash and who knows what else when it's combusted. Who's to say whether or not it will harm your nozzles or injectors?
Now I've burned all kinds of stuff in my mechanical CAT like No.1, high sulfur, low sulfur, ultra low sulfur No.2, red dyed No.2, very old No.2, used engine oil, bio diesel, etc. and I would burn ATF if I got hold of some free and only with expectations of it as a free fuel.
I would never spend money on it hoping (hope - remember Obama!) some miracle would happen.
ATF only goes into my power steering fluid reservoir.
My nozzles never have problems. My engine is not gunked up inside. The ol'Kitty has never seen one drop of ATF inside her. And I'll beat you up the hill. STILL!rollin coal Thanks this. -
I was always told to never use ATF due to the chemicals that are in it. I even have an old mechanical motor, which will burn about anything. I don't even run it in my power steering. I wouldn't recommend it even if that is what it calls for from the factory. If the seals start to leak on the PS pump that ATF will be in your motor. Don't know if it will cause any damage, but I know it will lower viscosity and cause a loss of oil pressure.
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Dumping ATF in fuel 30 years ago is probably different stuff from modern ATF with the friction inhibitors - stuff not intended to burn - they mix in it. No way I'd ever dump that crap in the fuel of any diesel, mechanical or not.
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When it was necessary to change out a plugged fuel filter, it was easier to buy a bottle of ATF in order to prime the new filter, rather than try to siphon off a quart of diesel from the tank. As mentioned above, it wouldn't be wise to do it these days. -
yeah it may well have been different, but it would do wonders on a gas engine with tapping lifters and valve rattle.
and a 290 small cam cummins got it and i guess thats what made her blow up , without any atf that 76 transtar might have made it to 1,700,000 instead 1.6 mil.Freightlinerbob Thanks this. -
Was in Bosselman's shop in Corbin, KY and noticed they had an Aircell Display with video and testmonial brochures.
Anybody ever try one of these?
I just don't see how it can help fuel mileage???
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they got em at iowa 80, at joplin petro and kenly nc petro, aircell displays
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