semi truck registration/2 state opperation

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Ezrider_48501, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    As I stated before. Because it is cheaper. Every state has a higher base rate for the state you are based in. The more miles it is estimated that you are going to run in that state the higher the plate. Since when you first start out you do not have actual miles to use they have an estimate they will use. If he registers in just two states to begin with he will have more than 50% of is miles calculated out of his base state. This will provide for the highest base plate he can get.

    Every state has two numbers that is used for IRP. First one is for carriers based in their state. The second is for out of state carriers. The instate number is higher. In some case by a lot. Your IRP is calculated by the % of mile you ran in each state. Because your base state uses a higher number, the larger the % in your base state the larger the plate fee.

    Because you do not have a history of miles when you start they will provide you with an estimate base on the states you choose (and justify). So if the OP just did an estimate on the 2 states he is going to run in he will likely get 60-70% estimate for his state.

    Now while the IRP is a set of rules that each state must follow, some states (like mine) have a strange way of interpreting these simple rules. So check with people that have gotten plates recently or call your IRP and ask for an estimate for all 48 and 2 states. Tell them you are trying to determine what company to go with and need to understand you expenses. IL will not give you this information but most other states will.

    And again, if you need justification for all 48 just send me an email and we will help you out.
     
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  3. texasmorrell

    texasmorrell Medium Load Member

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    Oh he will respond to you in a private message, trust me. If you think his comments are unintellectual and juvenile on the open threads just wait until he sends you a private message. He ranted and raved for at least five private messages about how ugly my wife is, even though he has never met her. Like I said, he knows all and sees all, must be his magical troll powers. Wasn't there a children's song called "Big Diesel the Magical Troll"?
     
  4. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    from the sounds of it i will be better off just to set everything up like as if i was going to be running OTR. I was kinda hoping because most work is all 100 mile radius out of one of two locations. that i would be able to maybe cut a few corners and still be legal.
     
  5. texasmorrell

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    You are correct BBB. I just got my plates yesterday at Texas DMV and had this exact conversation with the woman behind the counter. Actually my miles for the first two years on this truck will be estimated because it has to be a full year and my first year is only a partial year for 8 months. She had to fill in an estimated milage for each state on my cab card while I waited. RI had 48 miles. In Texas your milage report has to be exact too, it cannot be an rounded off amount for each state like on your IFTA report, pain the butt.
     
  6. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Thinking in right direction but IRP made it simpler once up and running. On positive note in most cases you can save money in first years of operation vs. old system and what you are truly running. Give an example when I started. 8 regional states would have been $3800. All 48 was $2200. Now with 30 states and actual it is $1900.
     
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  7. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    well on a side note i now own my own semi truck, not the one i was trying to purchase the bank was giving me the run around despite my 715 credit rating and more than enough funds/income to satisfy the loan. so i said to heak with it and went and bought a cash money truck, nothing fancy just a older flattop freight liner with a 60 series Detroit 9speed and 3.73 gears. 120k miles on a overhaul fires up purrs like a kitten everything is tight and runs down the road nice. needs a couple new drivers one of the rear airbags isnt leaking yet but looks a bit rough and will need to be replaced and a couple other real minor problems. but by the time i have this truck ready to run ill probably be just a tiny bit more into it than i was planning on putting down on the other truck even after having the wet kit installed on this one (the original truck already had the wet kit installed)

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  8. texasmorrell

    texasmorrell Medium Load Member

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    Does not matter what it looks like. Ugly trucks make just as much money as a pretty one. You did the right thing avoiding that truck payment, not to mention the interest. What you saved on interest alone you can make this truck look brand new if you want.
     
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  10. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    taxasmorrel that was kinda my line of thinking on this, the biggest hurdle to get over is going to be the initial cash outlay/operating expense until the payments start rolling in. going this route the dollar figure between what my down payment would have been and what ill have into this truck by the time its ready to make me money will be very close, by the time the first payment would have rolled around on the other truck the favor will be pushed towards this truck as there is no payments on it. this old freight liner isn't that bad looking ether, i do kinda dig the look of these older flattop freight liners. buff her out put a bull guard on the front, and maybe some side pipes and it would be a sharp truck. ill let it make me some $$$ before i worry about anything cosmetic however.
     
  11. texasmorrell

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    You may be able to factor some loads depending on what you are doing. I like the older models myself too. Dont have to worry about all that fancy computerized electronic crap putting your truck in the shop every two weeks. I never understood why they started putting all that stuff on the new trucks especially since it does nothing to improve fuel economy but it is always the first thing to break down. These old trucks are straight forward and fairly easy to work on yourself. I had a 97 FLD 120 that was my favorite truck and I knew every square inch of it inside and out and rarely took it to the shop unless it was something major. Just treat it right and it will pay for itself many times over before it finally goes to the scrap yard.
     
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