DEF/DPF Trucks...GOOD or BAD?

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  1. hobbypassion21

    hobbypassion21 Light Load Member

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    It seems like these new trucks with DEF/DPF are problematic. When I worked for Schneider, I had a 2006 Freightliner Cutlass Class. Never had any issues with the truck for the whole year. Suddenly I come to Con-Way, I get a nice 2011 Kenworth T660 but I've already had to take it to the shop 3 times since the beginning of this year, all due to this DEF/DPF crap. Now I'm planning on buying a truck and becoming an owner-op after my 2nd yr. The question is...should I buy a new or almost new truck and be stuck with truck payments and possible breakdowns due to the DEF/DPF, or should I just save my money and buy a decent used truck (pre-2007) for around $30,000? What would be the better option for a rookie starting out?
     
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  3. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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  4. Cat sdp

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    I'd stay away from the new emissions if possible. And pre 07 trucks are a little more pricey now because everybody wants them . Just my opinion . See how your kw goes and make your own call. Good luck!
     
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    If everybody wants them, then those trucks must be a good option, due to their high demand. I'm with you. I think I'm staying away from new emissions and high truck payments. Thanks for your response.
     
  6. 2fuzy

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    They suck but are becoming unavoidable but i would avoid them as long as you can
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  7. Cowpie1

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    I did. I managed to avoid the emissions and get a brand new truck at the same time. Glider truck the only way to go. Brand new truck, with factory rebuilt pre-emissions engine and tranny with new component warranties. Everything else in the truck is brand new like any new truck on the lot with standard new truck warranties. Saved over $40,000 compared to a similarly spec'd truck with all the emissions junk. Truck will be delivered by manufacturer on July 9th.

    Just another option instead of submitting to EPA junk. May not be an option forever, but it is now.

    As for original poster, look for a well maintained pre-egr truck. Even if it cost some to fix it up, it is far cheaper and will make you more than one of the newer emissions equipped trucks. You would be able to bank more money away for a restoration if you wanted to. A brand new truck is going to hit you in the wallet for over $125K for anything more than basic specs. A total frame up restoration on an older truck set up the way you want it will set you back maybe $70K and you would essentially have a brand new truck that will last longer, be easier and cheaper to maintain, and get better mpg. Starting out is rough unless you have deep pockets. Get a low priced pre-emission used truck. Even if you have to inflame the engine within a year, you will still be dollars ahead compared to dealing with the expense of the newer stuff. And older truck may not be a real head turner going down the road, but a truck is just a tool to get a job done. If starting out, the idea is to get a truck to stroke your ego, then don't get one. You may end up wishing you hadn't. If your idea is to run it like a business and manage it right, then go for it.
     
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  8. snowwy

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    i see that carb sheet wants 2010 engines at least in the not too distant future.

    and whatever carb does. the country soon follows.
     
  9. MNdriver

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    I am waiting to hear on the financing, but I just settled on a 2007 Century with 06 emissions and an APU. Pretty much insisting on that point for having an APU. Too many places are pushing the "no idle" topic.
     
  10. aiwiron

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    I despise electronics on engines and being biased I would throw this out to you. Purchase a older rig in good condition and redo the drive train and brakes, get it shiny and running safe and legal. You can take a 20,000.00 older rig and turn it into something beautiful for less than those worn out new pieces of junk people are dumping on the market, just a thought.
     
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  11. MNdriver

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    I'd love too.

    Matter of fact, that WAS my intention. But you kind of have to follow the banks desire too when you are spending their money as well.

    The big thing that they are looking for is age on a vehicle and don't like to finance anything older than 9-10 years old. IT sucks too. The 07 I found is $30K. I hope to hear on it today how they are going to go with it.
     
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