another whether to haul cheap freight question

**gravdigr** · 06.26.2012

Originally Posted by Les2

LMAO!
I was hauling partials/LTL's back in the 90's. Now I remember why I quit. To many suckers hauling them for stop off rates! There is a lot to consider wheny hauling partials, I'm not gonna take the time to explain it, as it would be pointless being most on here are just trucking to break even anymore.

I wish you would take the time, there are some of us here that would like to know this stuff.

**BoyWander** · 06.26.2012

The one thing I'm thinking about though is that you'd have 3 deliver points - one in San Antonio, one in Laredo, and one in Hidalgo. That's 308 miles on Google one way. Since you're already going to Hidalgo, you might as well go through Laredo, but if any of those loads are time sensitive, then 3 deliveries and 308 miles, it could literally take all day, and then you have to go back another 150 miles to get back to Laredo for your next pickup.

**dannythetrucker** · 06.26.2012

well, I didn't haul the cheapie. yah, putting partials together is a real pain in the butt. my original goal was to get San Antonio and Hidalgo off Monday, get Laredo off first thing Tuesday and reload. I did end up deadheading from Hidalgo to Laredo for a load. But I guess I sure showed that broker, huh, huh ?? lol.

You know what ticks me off is alot of these partials are internet related, this one was a sale on Iron Planet.com. I mean, where do these brokers get off making some kind of promise to somebody to get an item shipped for such and such price and then sticking it on a load board ? are they contractually obligated to get the load shipped then ? or if they can't find a sucker to haul it do they just shrug their shoulders and say, "I tried". It seems to me these shipments should be available direct to owner-ops on the internet. the closest thing is uship and don't even get me started on how uship is doing it all wrong.

**dannythetrucker** · 06.26.2012

Originally Posted by rsconsulting

I'd say my BS detector went off, when he called you and told you "his girl made a mistake". Probably got a call from someone else (AFTER he sent you the rate confirmation) that was willing to take it for less.

If this broker is someone "of value" to you, and you want to foster "future good will", you might consider offering to "split the difference" on the load (and do it for $700). Or give him the option to cancel his CONTRACT with you, for a TONU fee in the amount of, say $600?

We all understand considering it to be "extra gravy" when it's in route for you already - but you'd be setting a "tone" with this broker, of being able to negotiate you DOWN on ANY LOAD (versus you controlling the action and negotiating UP on EVERY LOAD).

There usually isn't a helluva lot of difference in rates for LTL versus FTL - the load STILL has to get there, and the shipper/consignee STILL has to "pay the freight" on it.

Rick

Rick, this broker is of absolutely NO VALUE to me ! lol.

**LBZ** · 06.26.2012

There is big mark up on LTL Freight that has terms to be met. It probably was paying $1,000-$1,300. It is not uncommon for those guys to keep 40-45% of gross. He was just trying to grab another $200 out of the deal.

**dannythetrucker** · 06.26.2012

Originally Posted by LBZ

There is big mark up on LTL Freight that has terms to be met. It probably was paying $1,000-$1,300. It is not uncommon for those guys to keep 40-45% of gross. He was just trying to grab another $200 out of the deal.

could be. My guess is he probably got a quote from USF/Holland or somebody and there was no real deadline on it so he figures stick it on the board awhile and if he gets somebody then he pockets some $$$. even though it was cheap the math was good on it. I only had the top deck left, other two partials filled the bottom. It was right on my way and I knew I could get a load out of Laredo. As some others mentioned it was little more than stop pay, but stops was all I was really adding. it just really torqued me off when he said 800 then made a dumb excuse and said it's 600.... on a friday afternoon... when I was in the process of picking up the other two loads...

he knew I'm a one man operation and I think he just got clever and realized I didn't have time to stop and search the boards for another part. what a jerk.