Any O/O's running local aggregates in Florida?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Trashtrucker1265, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. Trashtrucker1265

    Trashtrucker1265 Road Train Member

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    If so, how did you get in to the business, and how are things currently treating you? I've driven for nearly ten years, have a lot of offroad experience, have pulled both dump and pneumatic trailers, but all as a company driver. I've grown tired of the BS with a lot of these companies, but am nervous as hell to step out on a limb and do it myself.

    1.What was your first truck, how much did you spend on it, and was it already piped with PTO and hydraulic set up?

    2.What kind of rate should you look for if leasing your truck on to some of the local Florida carriers?

    3.Do you own your own trailer, or rent? If you rent, what kind of price can be expected, is it weekly or monthly?

    4.Do most companies offer a fixed cost on fuel? I recall seeing Tri-State/New Line Carriers offering fuel at $1.25PG, there must be something hidden in that cost.

    These are just a few questions, I've never even went as far to ask questions about these things, but like I said some of the crap I've dealt with over the last few years with companies, and their higher ups have left me scratching my head. I know I'm a hard worker, but sometimes I don't feel that work is rewarded, or even recognized.

    I'll post a link to a truck I found on C/L, now don't laugh I know the exterior is faded, but the tires look to be in good shape, the interior seems to be immaculate, and it is already plumbed with a PTO, hydraulic tank and line set up, and the price seems relatively inexpensive. I don't know the mileage, I messaged the owner but haven't heard anything back yet, he's obviously hispanic, and I am not so I'm sure there will be a language gap there.

    http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/3405829545.html
     
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  3. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I did aggregates in S. Ca. for years, as a company driver working for about 5 companies. The O/O's did OK except in the winter months when the work slowed down. The O/O's that owned their own trailers as well as power units did really well. The ones that rented the trailers from the co paid 20% for that privilege so the co owners made good $$$$ by renting out their trailers. They took them home since they used the same trailers permanently. Here in Ca. the norm is about 60 days to get paid.
     
  4. rollin coal

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    That "$1.25 a gallon" fuel cost is nothing more than playing with math, hype to get you leased on, meaningless hype. How it works is they will likely pay you 95 cents or a buck a mile then add a surcharge on top of that. The surcharge goes up or down with normal ups and downs of the national average fuel price. It's probably 40 or 50 cents a mile surcharge. So if it is 45 cents a mile and fuel costs you $4 a gallon with you getting 6.5 mpg it comes out to... costs you 61.5 cents a mile to roll down the road (fuel only) minus 45 cents surcharge equals $1.07 per gallon cost on fuel. Conveniently forgetting you're still only rolling at an unprofitable rate of $1.45 a mile. It's an advertising shell game. Three card Monty.
     
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  5. Trashtrucker1265

    Trashtrucker1265 Road Train Member

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    So many variables, all of which I think I understand but it's still a nerve wracking thought to actually move forward in this. I would not want to haul freight, I would prefer to pull a dump trailer around north/central Florida, my old company Pritchett Trucking where I drove as a company driver for a little over 3 years states on their website that if you rent a trailer from them, trailer rental and brokerage will be 22%, which essentially leaves the truck with 78% of the weekly revenue? Is this the norm on brokerage and rental, or high?

    What amount of money do most of you have put aside for repairs, maintenance, and unforseen events with the truck?

    Did you have this money already available, or is it with credit?

    There would be no winter lay offs in Florida, and from what I understand there's no holdbacks on pay, Pritchett states weekly settlements, I gather this is true since I would essentially be operating as a Pritchett truck, just under leased terms, therefore Pritchett might be the ones waiting 90 days for settlement, but me as a lease driver would be paid weekly. Thanks for any advice, my wife and I still need to get back to Florida, she sits for her state board of nursing exam on Dec.5th, and with any luck I'll be married to a LPN by Christmas, thus financially helping out our situation greatly.
     
  6. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    I live near Palatka. Pritchett's yard there seems a little bit busier than it used to be. I see them hauling logs a lot more lately. These rock bucket haulers around here seem to be doing OK, from what they say. Cheap rates, but work load is getting bette:smt120r.
    22 % include insurance ? 10 % for trailer is about normal, if it includes all tire costs. The company will make money, as I figure a my trailer costs about 5 to 7 %. I see them rented for about 125 / 150 a week, no tires included.
    Remember, 78 % of nothing is nothing, but 70 % of something is something:smt102. Do not get mis-lead by higher percentages, work the math all the way out, after you see their rates. Look at all the hidden costs, like communication equipment rental, occupational insurance, IFTA fees, and so on.
    I have never pulled dumps, but I know fellas who have. They seem to have a lower paying, but steady haul.
    I keep coupla thousand available if need be. Only run North Florida pulling a flat now, dedicated to 3 shippers. Ran OTR / regional reefer for many years, owned several trucks at different times over the years. Not worth the head aches to hire drivers now.
    I think a man could do OK pulling dumps from what my friends say.:Trailer: Not get rich, but keep food on the table. If your wife to be gets family medical benefits, all the better. I would sure rather spend the winter here than there.
     
  7. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    22% there.......20% in Ca. Yes, the norm.
     
  8. Trashtrucker1265

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    Oh she's been my wife for years, but has just now completed her LPN training. I really appreciate your insite, especially being in the area that I speak of. http://pritchetttrucking.com/content.cfm?page=15 That is the basic information for their O/O's, and I'm just using Pritchett as an example, I pulled both locally and regionally for them throughout the course of the 3 years I was with them. It is something I'd really like to pursue, but at the same time I get very nervous about losing what little bit of a nest egg I have built up over the years. My committment level to this is what's up in the air, but I can honestly say that the whole company driver thing has me completely burnt out on this profession as a whole.
     
  9. jbatmick

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    In life, you will regret the things you did not do, more than the things you did.
     
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