Ok, this actually happened to me a few months back but a situation I had the other day brought it back to my memory....
I pulled a load out of NH with 4 drops back during the powder (snow) season. 1st drop was in NY 3 pallets. I pulled it no problem and was on my way. 2nd stop was in Jersey at a cross dock who pulled the 10 themselves. 3rd and 4th were both in PA. Had to schedule appts for both. Of course I already know that you can't be forced to hire a lumper so when the work isn't to exhaustive I'll do it myself and make the money. First I ask the lumper service for their estimate and I go off of that as to what I call in the tcheck for to the broker.
So, long story short: I did the work, (only charged for the 3rd and 4th drops) got my tcheck that day, turned in my receipts and about a month later the company I'm leased to called me and said I was being hit with a charge back for the lumper, because I didn't turn in a receipt from the lumper service at the facility! I talked with the broker and explained to them that you got the receipts from me because I did the work! At this point the work is done...so you're saying I did this for work for free???
What is the recourse at this point, well not now but going forward how should I handle this situation?
Broker Lumper Chargeback
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by mrbamcclain, Aug 30, 2013.
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mrbamcclain Thanks this.
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As much as I hate to say it, you don't have a case. In the future, be sure that you get the OK from the broker before paying yourself for the work. See below:
http://www.whitfieldlaw.com/2012/01/11/case-law-update-lumper-fees-in-the-eighth-circuit/
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Thanks for that information!
So seeing that the money was readily paid since it was known prior that these costs would be incurred, what difference does it make who does the work and gets paid? Basically the broker said we'll pay the lumper service for the work, but not you! Sounds like they are in bed together to mecetanediesel Thanks this. -
this is why drivers should never unload, never..and you should be paid to sit there and watch the trailer being unloaded..
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Have some customers that will only pay on lumper service reciepts. And the carriers still turn in their own. When you check with the lumper service you find that they unloaded it and the carrier padded their reciept for more. And then some wonder why they can't do their own.
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That's why I always check with the lumper service first. I've never charged more than they've quoted me. Most times the broker knows the usual price anyway with repeat loads
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A driver of mine one time lumped it himself and got the $175 through a Comchek from the broker. Seeing the red tape coming up on this one and what was going to happen I thought ahead. Found out the name of the lumper service and did a google search for an "invoice template" and came up with all the receiver info on it, etc..turned it in to the broker at billing and never heard another word about it.
The point is if you know the money is going to be tracked up the ladder then make an invoice that looks like it comes from Lumper to driver and stamp paid on it. All this only applies if you are lumping one yourself.areelius Thanks this.
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