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    Medium Load Member mc8541ss's Avatar
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    Every load could be considered a back haul for someone....... Like stated before, time is money and if it's cheap it isn't worth the time. Funny thing is, seems like the cheaper loads are always the ones that take the longest or become more and more complicated. I guess it is because when shippers are penny pinchers and looking for cheapest truck they have also done the same with their employees and you end up with a bunch of slackies that don't give a rats butt......it's all down hill from there.......now you have 2 days blown on what should have taken a few hours.......double my fuel cost and everyone gets paid but me. Since I own the truck I refuse to drive it for free.


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    The fact that there are companies willing to move things for next to nothing is the problem with the transportation industry in this country. In my opinion, brokers shouldn't exist. I mean maybe I should look into doing it. Just bid something in at a rate I realistically couldn't even do it for and find someone dumb enough to do it for less and get paid for picking up the phone. Every load I bid on, I try to keep fuel at 25%. If I spend more than 25% of what the load pays in fuel, then I consider that a failure. I also attempt to stay within 300 miles and I don't worry about a backhaul. If they've got something to send back with me, that's great. I'll knock a little off each way. Realistically in my mind though, 25% should go to fuel, 25% should go to the driver, and 50% should go to the company.

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    What kind of MPG should a guy consider for this estimate for a fully loaded and unloaded truck/flatdeck? I realize this can vary with the truck but...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bviper View Post
    What kind of MPG should a guy consider for this estimate for a fully loaded and unloaded truck/flatdeck? I realize this can vary with the truck but...
    It depends on what it is....... is it something like steel plates that don't catch air but weigh 48,000 lbs or something light but catches a lot of air or something in between?

    I think I have seen a few ask what the load is but I don't remember you answering them.

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    A description of the load and weight, and from where to where, and people here can give a realistic estimate of what he should charge. I don't see how that would violate rules as he's asking for advice instead of selling something.

    A mod can come along and verify if I am right or not. It seems educating a shipper as to what reasonable rates are is a good thing all around.

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    Why is dude not throwing out what hes got to move. Twice he's been asked.

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    It's hay, see his other thread.

    My experience with hay......I wouldn't touch it for under $4 a mile and that's on long miles. Short miles would be double,triple or more, just depending on how far and how much time involved.

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    Just FYI, thee load in question is NOT hay and despite your meaningless rant in the other thread, I move hay very legit. Sale by the bale ONLY, no tarps, and though you whine about how much time it takes, I have seen trucker sit MUCH longer trying to secure other loads. I had the last truck out in under an hour. If that irritates you, move something else. You have a lot of deck space to fill.

    I am moving cast steel parts at the moment. I do a lot of different things.

    Yes, I am working on buying a semi as well because I have learned that there is something about hay that makes some people frown. Not my fault, I did not do it and sweat my ### off to work hard so you can stay in your AC cab and get a smoke.

    Do I plan to get rich running a semi? Not even close, but my hay will get moved!!

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    ok, ok, in an earlier post I made the comment that starting at 1.60 from kalispell back to midwest "id look into it" if it was easy and light. Hay is not in that equation so i'm out of this thread!


    thank you MC8541 as i am no longer interested.

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    Why is hay so hated? It's an honest question, I'm a city guy and new to trucking.

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