2004+ post emission trucks success stories from owners? single operator or sm+ fleet.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by paintballer, Jul 8, 2014.

  1. paintballer

    paintballer Light Load Member

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    Okay I have heard plenty of bad stories and I can see that this has caused a change in the market. Concerning older trucks and glider kits with pre emission motors. But unless you are willing to shell out big bucks on a glider, your choice is getting thinner by the day.

    Just wondering if you can make lemonade out of these lemon trucks?

    If you have been successful with any of these newer trucks please post your positive experience. Include truck make, year, motor, emissions (egr, dpf, scr), mpg (related stats - mph, load type, ect.), and preventive maintenance that kept you moving.

    The last one I am really interested in especially. Is it possible to not rely on just luck to keep these trucks on the road? Can you make your own good luck by doing x, y, z for a specific newer truck.

    Can you be successful with these newer trucks? If taken care of?
     
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  3. leftlanetruckin

    leftlanetruckin Road Train Member

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    Idle time kills DPF filters the most. Thats about it as far as what you can prevent IMHO.

    Martin
     
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  4. Sarabeara

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    I own a 2013 Peterbilt 389 - 500HP ISX Cummins, a 2013 Volvo 630 550HP, 2015 Western Star 4900 550HP Detroit, and although no longer - a 2014 Peterbilt 388 with a 525 HP Cummins. I havent had a chance to really kick my Star around, less than 10,000km's on it - so I cant really comment there.
    Both of my Peterbilts have had serious issues involving downtime. Especially the 388. I would probably say in the first 7 or 8 months was in the shop 10 days minimum a month. As it turns out, wrong egr for the engine, and main wiring harness got replaced.
    Thats after 4 DEF pump replacements.
    The 2013 389 had fewer problems with DEF issues, but probably because it has fewer sensors on it over the 2014 engines. Once we had some electrical issues fixed this truck has been a solid workhorse.
    One of the problems we've had is employees who run these trucks without increasing the RPM's to 1100rpm while waiting, or sleeping. When its hot out, I cant say I don't blame the employee who wants to sleep in a cool truck but cant leave it running because this unit doesnt automatically perform a regen automatically. Thats one of the reasons i've started to love the Volvo. This truck can be left on, and it will perform a regen automatically without any input from the driver. So you can be more at rest if your employee wants to sleep that the engine will look after itself.
    This trucks hauls heavy and is spec'd accordingly. 550HP with 46 rears. It gives me about 2mpg better than either of my Peterbilts, and wonder if I did just luck out with this unit, or if this is the norm with Volvo.
    You asked if there is something you could do to keep these trucks on the road by doing certain procedures.
    If you have employees who like to idle - or need to, Volvo seems to have things figured out.
    In addition, I too looked at the purchase of a glider, or doing a delete kit. But I KNOW that if I want to keep trucking in certain provinces, that both of these may be an issue down the road. When they introduce new EPA standards for engines, I wont ever be the guinea pig again. I'll let somebody else
    who has deeper pockets figure it out for the first year. THEN i'll place an order.

    Drive safe.
     
  5. leftlanetruckin

    leftlanetruckin Road Train Member

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    Most, if not all can be programmed to perform an auto regen. I know Detroit can, as I saw the auto elevate setting in the ecm, which means it will idle up to regen.

    Martin
     
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  6. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Pete/KW had a problem with one of the software upgrades that took the regen out except for a manual regen. They do have a fix.

    Idle causes problems,mainly early DPF replacement and DPF sensor problems.

    Plenty of preventitive maint to cut down problems. DEF filter/screen cleaing. Checking wiring connectors for corrosion,ect.

    2015" (detroit) Not enough miles to tell yet.

    2014's (detroit) about 150K on them and zero dealer visits. (one PDI screw-up but taken care of)There has been a couple of software upgrades but that can be scheduled anytime.

    2013" (detroit) averaged about 130K per dealer visit.

    2012's (detroit) averaged about 127K per dealer visit.

    2011'S (detroit) averaged about 125K per dealer visit.

    2010's (detroit) averaged about 114K per dealer visit.

    2009's averaged more shop than road time the first 6 months. Over time they got the bugs worked out somewhat. Still averaged about 39K per dealer visit.
     
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  7. paintballer

    paintballer Light Load Member

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    Your 2009 detroit experience is pretty scary.
     
  8. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    At least Freightliner took care of me. They paid for quite a few rentals. Still I spent a year dreading to answer the phone.
     
  9. Popesdiesel

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    Ain't nothin like an old detroit 60 12.7
     
  10. Johny41

    Johny41 Road Train Member

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    Not really a success story, but I can't complain, maybe I'm lucky with this truck;
    Volvo 780 ,2008; I purchased it new in June 2007, running team for Celadon, ; original Volvo D13 and Eaton 13 manual, ; still running 8-9mpg , with 1,320,000 miles ; excelent motor on fuel plenty of power torque,; has problems with injector cups, some wiring, I cleaned dpf twice only and replaced it once @900k miles, ; 2 egrs at 800k and 1,200,000 miles and a dozen of emission sensors;
    photo my dash today;
    View attachment 68507
     
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  11. paintballer

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    Hey the old is becoming a issue.

    I know there has been many who have had issues with the newer trucks. Just wondering if some have made them work. And what helped to keep them on the road.

    Just wondering? ????
     
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