For the owner operators with their own authority insurance question.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BAYOU, Jul 26, 2014.

  1. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

    2,847
    1,592
    Sep 23, 2010
    Beaumont,Tx
    0
    For the fourth time in a few weeks customers I haul for are requesting to be named additional insured on my policy they are asking for Commercial General Liability: $2 Million Aggregate / $1 Million OccurrenceCommercial Auto Liability: $1 Million Combined Single Limit
    Workers Compensation: $1 Million Aggregate / $1 Million Occurrence
    Commercial Umbrella: $1 Million Aggregate / $1 Million Occurrence
    What gets me is the last company sent me a e-mail requesting what there wanting but in the e-mail says nobody else that moves there equipment has this.
    (Just so you know none of our "transports" provided certificates that indicate that (customer) is an additional insured so we have requested a revision from them for this ONLY as the other transports provided ALL other required insurance coverages.

    I do apologize for the inconvenience as well as any confusion but I just assumed that they would have the basic required coverages.

    I have a million/100k cargo and there telling me I'm not close to what is required for them like I said this ant the first time seems like most companies are now starting to request this. Do any of y'all see a problem with this I just don't like the fact of having multiple companies listed on my policy.
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

    5,946
    10,065
    Aug 28, 2011
    State of Jefferson
    0
    I have no problems with them being added as additional insured -- at least 20 of the top 25 brokerages (by annual net revenue) has required it. Takes my insurance agent's receptionist 15 seconds to add a company name/address to a certificate & email or fax back to them/me.

    Of the 25 largest brokers, 2 have required 1,000,000 General liability, 1 listed it as a requirement but accepted me without it, and 2 have requested but not required it. As far as I'm concerned, until such point where it becomes financially worthwhile to buy a 1,000,000 General liability policy, I won't get one. The 2 hold-outs don't pay better than anyone else, so unless they had exclusive contracts in lanes you need -- I'd just let the free market do its thing.
     
  4. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

    2,856
    4,032
    May 26, 2011
    everywhere, man
    0
    I see a big problem with it ! Sorry, I have no solutions to offer you. All you can do is try to find the most reasonable person at that organization, explain you are more than adequately insured to perform the services they require and here is your rate for the work. Then kindly explain you would be happy to oblige them by providing additional insurance requirements and here is the rate with increased insurance.

    I would be curious to know if requiring general liability coverage even protects them that much. If a guy falls off his trailer and splits his head open, great he has general liability, but it's still their property, and I would suspect the carrier's insurance company may even come after them which I can only imagine would be 10X worse than if the guy hurt himself without the insurance.
     
  5. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

    2,847
    1,592
    Sep 23, 2010
    Beaumont,Tx
    0
    Just so some of you know I'm not talking about insurance certificate holder.
     
    dannythetrucker Thanks this.
  6. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

    2,856
    4,032
    May 26, 2011
    everywhere, man
    0
    yes, additional insured, and I can only imagine the response you would get if you countered them by suggesting they add you as additional insured on their liability insurance !
     
    Boardhauler Thanks this.
  7. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

    2,847
    1,592
    Sep 23, 2010
    Beaumont,Tx
    0
    Some points I do understand the thing is I never load this equipment myself they load and unload and am not allowed to drive this equipment my deal is while they are loading or unloading and drive off the side of my trailer and lands on a pipe rack or someone and kills them this shouldn't fall back on me. I told them this week there equipment is covered during transit and if I hit something at one of their customers my insurance covers that. There response was this.... The “Cargo” coverage is sufficent. This insurance covers property in transit and is the primary exposure (customer) here has since you folks are transporting our equipment.
     
  8. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

    2,847
    1,592
    Sep 23, 2010
    Beaumont,Tx
    0
    That's a good point but I could see them asking why would they add me..
     
  9. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

    2,856
    4,032
    May 26, 2011
    everywhere, man
    0
    you could just as easily be damaged due to their negligence as vice versa. Someone runs a forktruck into the hood of your truck, fall into an open hole, I mean you name it. If they need to be listed as additional insured on yours to feel good about doing business, stands to reason it works both ways. And if you fully trust them to file a claim or assume responsibility then they should reciprocate that as well, yes ? I mean, maybe I misunderstand the reasoning for additional insured. But if it is to give them access to file claims on your insurance I just find it all silly. Why do they need that access ? You will file a claim if one is warranted, and if you don't they can always sue you. Why the need for additional insured ?
     
    EHB and double yellow Thank this.
  10. EHB

    EHB Medium Load Member

    489
    198
    Apr 26, 2011
    Newfoundland
    0
    No matter what you pay... some companies will **** you over, just like the insurance companies will jack the price up every year... year after year.

    Sooner or later there is going to have to stop sooner or later or get out of the transportation business all together.

    Some O/O have already been selling their trucks and/or jumping into a larger company trucks as just a driver and not an O/O anymore.

    It seems to be a trend with larger companies buying out smaller companies all the time with no end in sight.
     
  11. Ribeye

    Ribeye Light Load Member

    139
    106
    Jan 4, 2012
    0
    I use Progressive co., they charge me $25 for any additional insured's that need to be added, but I have not run into what you're talking about (not Yet anyway, but it figures).

    Ya, if Congress ever does pass that liability minimum increase from $1 million to 5 million, a lot of us are done. Unless the cost was minimal, which I doubt it would be.
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2014
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.