Idling...how many gallons per hour?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Gazoo, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. Gazoo

    Gazoo Resident Mental Patient

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    Bob, you make a TON of great points, as a new Owner Operator, I am slowly realizing that an APU may not be the best option for me. Everyone is saying: "Your truck at idle is burning 1 gallon per hour or more" Well guess what, I just ran my own test 2 days ago and found that my truck at idle only burns 0.4 or 0.5 gallons per hour at best. I have the fuel receipts to prove it. Yes, they will also figure in the cost of wear and tear, but as you said, in two years I might switch out trucks. Locally they want $9,400 + Tax for a TriPac with 3 days of install. Including the 3 days of lost revenue, this is NOT a choice for me. Now, at $5,000 with 6-8 hours of install I might still be interested, slightly. The only real reason for the APU for me now lies in keeping legal in the "No Idle" States. During the fall and spring my truck will be shut off when loading/unloading. Winter months I will shut it down intermittently so it really is only during the summer months that it will idle straight. I can sleep in the cold, I just cant tolerate the heat. The only other issue I will have will be keeping my batteries charged up overnight when I am shut down and my inverter must remain on to power my fridge. I will concern myself with that problem over the next couple of weeks...I have some ideas. [​IMG]
     
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  3. BobC

    BobC Medium Load Member

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    $7k-$10k buys a lot of anti-idling tickets.

    Personally, I'll take my chances with the tickets until or unless some goobermint goofball makes the ticket into a points violation.

    I don't know about your truck but all of mine turned into an "easy bake oven" inside of a few mins of sitting in the sun.
    It turned into a "meat locker" within minutes in the winter too.

    I nearly froze to death one time because I was trying be a "company guy" & be "green friendly".
    You can forget all that.

    My safety & comfort is worth every bit of fuel that I supposedly "waste" in the effort.
    I'm not against "green" but I'm not going to kill myself over it either.

    When my dispatchers show me the thermostat in the office is set for 30' or less in the winter or 90' in the summer, I'll be more willing to do my share in keeping climate control costs down.

    The same goes for keeping police, fire, DOT etc vehicles comfy during the year.

    I am not oblivious to pollution created by idling engines.
    I'm also not convinced that todays engines can't idle in a low emmisions condition either.

    I get to thinking about all those oil fired heaters/furnaces in people's homes & how inefficient & nasty they burn...day after day..night after night.
    I'm sure you've smelled them as you went by in a residential neighborhood.

    At 0.45-0.5 gals per hour, how much can a new engine spew out in harmful particulates?
    Can't be much different than a home heat plant running on oil.

    I could go on but it's pointless..I'm preaching to the choir.
     
  4. Gazoo

    Gazoo Resident Mental Patient

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    Besides, what is the difference between idling a 3cyl APU diesel motor as opposed to a 6cyl Detroit...they are both idling and both emitting emissions. Yes, the smaller is doing less but it is STILL idling.
     
  5. BobC

    BobC Medium Load Member

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    Actually, the APU is not idling most of the time because it's actually working to keep the batterys & the air conditioning compressor going. If heat is needed, I'm sure it cranks up a bit to generate the hot water.

    Think refer unit.
     
  6. RyanSmurf

    RyanSmurf Bobtail Member

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    Depending how many hours you typically idle right now will determine your fuel savings with an APU. The advanatage of an APU is that you can use it anywhere, off ramps, KMart parking lot, etc. With IdleAire you have to find a truck stop that has it and then hope that the spots aren't full. With fuel costs now averaging over $3.25 throughout the US your fuel savings will add up much more quickly.
    $3.25 X 8 hrs. = $26 per night
    26 X 5 nights = $130 per week
    $130 X 50 weeks = $6500 (assuming you take a couple weeks off)
    APU fuel usage = 0.2 gal/hr = $1300
    $6500 - 1300 = $5200 annual fuel savings.
    Also, these numbers do not take into account less wear and tear on your truck engine, less preventative maintenance on truck engine and less alternator and other component failures on the truck.
     
  7. truckin916

    truckin916 Medium Load Member

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    I have found in my 07 Volvo to be about 1 gal per hr. With just the apu running it's under .5 gal per hr.
     
  8. RyanSmurf

    RyanSmurf Bobtail Member

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    Your APU is burning .5 gal per hour? What kind do you have?
     
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