Is there ever a right time to add a second truck?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by PhoenixExpress, Sep 21, 2014.

  1. PhoenixExpress

    PhoenixExpress Bobtail Member

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    Long story short. Father in law has been a trucker for the last 7 years. Recently spent the last 2 as an O/O leased on to a company. About 6 months ago some how my wife and i got roped into getting our authority and booking loads for him. Well my wife does the booking and billing stuff. We recently passed the six month mark and so far so good. It breaks even and then some. As a group we were able to fund this new venture so we don't have to use factoring. The Truck is only a year old and dry van is new so these last 6 months ave been kind on us. Learning about getting loads has been the tricky part. Truck is based out of Miami, FL so I have experienced hauling for TQL, 44,000 lbs of sugar just to get out at $1.24. But also A load of wire for a Walmart under construction that needed to be installed asap got a cool $3.05 over the labor day weekend. And last month the truck had 10,632 loaded miles and 358 dead head miles on 11 loads around $23,000. Right at the 25k i figured for operating income per month.

    My question to the forum, is it to soon to add another truck? In this day n age are small trucking companies worth it (10-20 trucks) This is not my main source of income as i own another company. We have A+ credit and enough for a sizable down payment , I plan to have enough money to be able to park the truck for 3-4 months (payment and ins.) if need be. Since we started with 25k in operating account we seem to always have about 14k in receivables. My thinking is between down payment on truck and insurance i am looking at another 25k for a total of 50k. If my projection are right based off the last 6 mo my ROI would be right at 1.5 years with an O/O and a company truck.


    Thanks for your opinions,

    Brandon
     
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  3. soremonkeybutt

    soremonkeybutt Light Load Member

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    well the way that I gennerally look at things is that I break down all my predictable expenses and figure out what that amount is than figure the possible revenue from that truck above that baseline if the demand is there along with the revenue I would go for it but you also have to take into mind about the seasonal and quartly fluctuations but overall I think the freight industry is really picking up
     
  4. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    to me the variable will be who the driver is and how they take care of your equipment
    sounds like you have a lot of irons in the fire already
    company I drive for with 10 trucks I would fire 4 of the drivers tomorrow
    but I'm sure the boss worries the next guy might be even worse
     
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  5. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    Ditto on the driver being the variable. Finding a good driver can be a headache, and will make or break your plan.
    You have your ducks in a row, looks like. The last coupla months have been fairly good freight wise, have seen better , have seen much worse.
    Over the years I have expanded and run multiple trucks when freight was good, but the extra problems of employees / owner operators took a lot of time, and was not worth it. I will not hire other trucks/drivers again.
    I have always been told to have 1 truck or at least 5. In between is not worth it.
     
  6. boneebone

    boneebone Road Train Member

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    The Rule if Thumb to suceed is always have a Odd Numbered of trucks, 1, 3, 5, 7, etc.
     
  7. RGRTim

    RGRTim Light Load Member

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    I agree with what the others have said about the driver. On the money side just make sure that you have enough set aside to be able to run that truck, pay the driver etc for at least 45 days. We just went thru this, paid cash for 2nd truck and trailer and if I had it to do over again I would probably wait a little while longer. We made it thru ok but I would now advise anyone in this position to run 1st truck a full year before jumping into another one.
     
  8. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    the second truck will make less money cuz now you have the added expense of a driver.

    you've only been hauling 6 months. y ou should haul for a year. to get a better feel of freight year round. as an o/o.

    hiring help can make or break you. some don't want to work, some just don't take care of the equipment. all you gotta do is look around. you won't see many KICKING their tires. or anything else for that matter.
     
  9. tirednaz

    tirednaz Heavy Load Member

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    I say get a full year in.
     
  10. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    Biggest variable is the driver. They make or break you. The van arena is different than the open load freight. I have never done van or reefer work. Why not lease on an O/O less net income for you, But you have a driver that will be a little more inspired to take care of his equipment. Learn with both and when the time is right buy another truck or lease on another driver. There is no formula that I am aware of for when the right time is. Good Luck.
     
  11. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    I would lease on an owner /op instead of buying another truck.
     
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