old trucks and ELDS

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by blacklabel, Oct 21, 2014.

  1. blacklabel

    blacklabel Heavy Load Member

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    So where is everyone going to go with the big carriers going to some sort of logs?

    Mercer used to be any age truck now its 97 and newer BC of ELDS.

    Does a guy try to go independent and use load boards?
    Just thinking out loud.
     
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  3. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    and you can keep on thinking out loud. cuz you can bet that day will be sure to come.

    i seen a brochure in the office today. someone made a cold call to sell his product to the company. with 6 ways eld's will improve his company efficiency.
     
  4. Davidlee

    Davidlee Medium Load Member

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    Upgrade to 97 electronics!
     
  5. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Congress had mandated ELDs for all trucks so it's going to happen within the next few years. Don't know how you would upgrade a mechanical engine to '97 electronics, but I'm sure someone will figure something out on this. There are a lot of good older trucks on the road.
     
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  6. marmonman

    marmonman Road Train Member

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    Why would a electronic logging device need to hook into the engine at all ???

    All it will need is gps device .
    It can track speed time and keep track of your status be it on duty driving or sleeper and off duty .

    All the government needs to do is set the standards and then any one of a thousand companies can begin making the device .
    That may even include your smart phone and a blue tooth printer .
     
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  7. Ridgeline

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    It doesn't. that's the issue for me and a few others who see the specs being written by the companies who claim to be experts on them, which there are no real experts.

    Anyone with good programming knowledge, a good knowledge of how logging works and an open mind to listen to truckers and their needs can build an app or software that does everything that needs to be done and be compliant to be an actual EOBR, not just an ELD.
     
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  8. purpleprime

    purpleprime Medium Load Member

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    Does the rand McNally eobr compliant device hook into the engine I understood it didnt
     
  9. marmonman

    marmonman Road Train Member

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    That's my point a ELD or even EOBR does not need electronic motors to work because they have no need to connect to the engine at all .
    So mandating an age limit based on the fact that you need electronics on the engine for them to work just shows a companies lack of understanding the basic concept of LED's or EOBR's .
    This is especially true when there aren't even any regulations on how and what needs to be recorded to meet the standards that don't exist yet .
     
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  10. russtrucker

    russtrucker Road Train Member

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    those idiots with mandates are killing the trucking industry and the country. Soon or later mandates will be broken.
     
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  11. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Well I look at it a bit differently, the problem with the age limit is with the company and the idiots who get sold on them as a solution to their problems. I know this first hand when I was doing the medical IT stuff, a vendor would come up with a solution for one company and then market it to make more money, trying to sell a company that this will solve a problem than after buying the product, then the support, then the "right" equipment, it upended the ROI to the point they had to no choice but either admit a mistake or just keep paying for the BS. Carriers are no different, no one with any tech skills are making the decisions and not asking the right questions or demanding things done to fix the products to fit their needs.

    I scrapped out a truck a while ago, it was a 1980 GMC something or another class 7 flatbed, I got the thing for the engine, I turned a good dime on the parts but the oddest thing that I found on the truck was a computer hook up that is on a lot of trucks (not J-1939 type but the earlier version) and a little box that had a bunch of sensors hooked to it. I looked and looked for the company that was on the box but they were out of business or bought up. The thing worked when I hooked it to my laptop, I could read historical data from the box, so I assume that there is a system out there for mechanical trucks that will adapt these systems for the EOBR without too much hassle.
     
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