How to bring truck home?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BASARAB, Jan 24, 2015.

  1. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Kansas scale wanted to see it all back when I was passing through. You are in a commercial vehicle, even though it is not actively being used in commerce at that point. Fact is, you bought it with the intent to put it to use commercially, and are transporting it in order to set it up for that purpose. Your insurance is likely going to be a commercial policy, and if the truck was bought in your company name it will be an uphill battle arguing that it ISN'T a commercial vehicle....especially when by the time you have to appear in court over the matter it may already be in service as a CMV making the state's case fairly open and shut.
     
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  3. jason6541

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    I'm not arguing here, But I live in Kansas and cover my dot# and company name with a not for hire sticker on my sleeper windows, and drag my RV all over the country without a problem, even bobtailed from Kansas to Washington state where I bought my RV. I called a lot of states and was told as long as it had not for hire and wasn't being used for commercial use not a problem. Or maybe i've been extremely lucky?. I use my tractor as a Rv toter because I don't want to go buy a class 6 truck and have it just sit most of the time.
     
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  4. crzyjarmans

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    You can get a 30 day insurance, plus a temp. Moving permit, that how I did it when I bought my last truck
     
  5. crzyjarmans

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    Think you might have been lucky, it been my understanding, that when using a truck for non commercial, as in a RV, it must be registered as such, but this could have changed?
     
  6. heavyhaulerss

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    I was told as long as your not engaging in commerce & using as your own personal vehicle you do not need log book. have no idea myself though. as far as scales, you may have all paperwork in order, but if they decide to do a vehicle insp, better have a truck that will pass without any o.o.s. violations.
     
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  7. EZX1100

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    this is exactly what i would do

    have it registered, just like your car and expect to be pulled in for a level 1 on the truck (you shouldnt buy it anyway, if it wont pass inspection)

    no log book, no med card needed (purely my opinion)
     
  8. Ridgeline

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    To the op, get a temp permit from the state you are buying it from (call them), of course first get the insurance from someone like Progressive .... then go and get it.

    Bring with you your bill of sale, so when you do go through the scales, you can hand them proof, and ... more importantly ... log your HOS, because no matter what, you will be considered driving a truck.

    As for the not for hire stuff, it is nothing but crap. It is meaningless to many states, you may not be for hire but that implies you are running a commercial operation.

    YOU get caught trying to pass this off as an RV or as something that isn't commercial, you can get a good fine and put OOS.
     
  9. Lowa3468

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    call ooida, they can get you all the information you need and the insurance just for bobtail would only run like 50-100 bucks.

    a buddy of mine bought a truck, just put insurance on it, and had to buy permits for each state to get it home, and he got his truck home without any issues. (not sure of everything he had to do but from what i can remember as it was awhile ago this is what i remembered of our conversations about it).
     
  10. shortstack250

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    From my personal experience I bought a truck in.NY I live in Illinois and got D.O.T in Indiana and was in formed by them that I am required to run a logbook whether I'm for hire or not it is still considered a CMV.
     
  11. Cetane+

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    First of all, anyone that thinks the DOT cop in front of you knows all the laws is an idiot. Now look up the FMCSA definition of a "commercial Vehicle". Now ask your self if this truck on this trip meets that definition. I have never driven anyone elses truck, not a company driver ever, only the 10 or so that I have owned myself. In my LLC.'s name or my personal name. If you read the requirements of IFTA, you dont need that. IRP doesnt work because you cant give them a valid DOT number, or MC number. So does that mean that any vehicle over 10,000lbs. has to have operating authority to haul commercial (for money$$) freight. What about when I use the off duty line for when I am driving home in my completely legal to haul commercial (for money $$) freight tractor and trailer? The cop at the scale will spew any crap that he has been trained to come out of his mouth. The cop usually gives you a ticket for things he doesnt even know all about, thats normal. Thats why when I get a ticket it associates more than 4 hours of time that I have to go to court to get it set strait, and dropped.

    Are you a CMV? Yes, or No? Thats the question.
     
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