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Anti-gel is non-IFTA gallons, right?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by double yellow, Jan 31, 2015.

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  1. Jan 31, 2015 #1
    double yellow

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    Just confirming that I need to pay IFTA on fuel additive...
     
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  3. Jan 31, 2015 #2
    passingthru69

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    no unless you are buying #1 diesel then you have to report that fuel.
    But additives no
     
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  4. Jan 31, 2015 #3
    double yellow

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    After an hour's research, I don't believe that is correct. The IFTA manual says you need to keep records of all "motor fuel" purchased. In a separate publication, it defines "motor fuel" as

    The MSDS for Howes Diesel Treat says:



    Thus diesel additive is taxable (but not tax-paid).
     
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  5. Feb 1, 2015 #4
    Oscar the KW

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    I think what "IFTA" means is a "fuel" for the sole purpose of propelling a motor vehicle. Additives don't do that, a motor vehicle does not require additives to operate. They are more of a feel good insurance policy.
     
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  7. Feb 1, 2015 #5
    double yellow

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    You could be right -- but could you run a diesel on straight howes? I suspect you could. Besides, for me it'll only be an extra ~$1.50 in taxes and going from 7.3mpg in Q3 to 8.1mpg in Q4, I'm more likely to be audited than average.

    The 300 gallons I bought at the Seneca Hawk in NY hurt though -- that turned out to be an Indian reservation that does not collect NY state fuel tax...
     
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    Oscar the KW

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    Could you afford to fill your tanks full of Howes?
     
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  9. Feb 1, 2015 #7
    HopperHauler

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    That got me thinking, so I did some quick math. At $10/quart, with 150 gallon tanks, it'd cost $12000 to fill my truck.

    I rarely use fuel additive, let alone use enough to bother reporting it on my IFTA.
     
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  10. Feb 1, 2015 #8
    willisl64

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    You may consider checking out the Penray branded antigel, winter power plus. Been using it 4 years now, no issues at all. 1 quart is under 6 bucks and treat up to 250 gallons.
     
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    double yellow

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  12. Feb 1, 2015 #10
    HopperHauler

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    That would be the way to buy it! I didn't realize you could get it in a drum. Sure would beat buying it by the bottle at the truck stop. As long as you have a place to store it, and get by there often enought to fill your empty bottles out of it.
     
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