2011 vs 12 vs 13 Freightliner. Must decide!!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by jpeters72155, Feb 13, 2015.

  1. pullin trains

    pullin trains Light Load Member

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    Watch the pre def engines..as they were being overhauled at low miles..I've heard like 2-3 hundred thousand..they claim the near trucks are better..
     
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  3. Casual Trucker

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    Most Day Cabs Do City work and according to the maintenance schedule that comes with any truck it advise the owner to change the oil and replace filters etc a lot sooner than the long haul trucks.How many of these trucking companies wana be a Mechanic care a bout The maintenance of the truck his company owns when his boss only wants to pay him $1/hr because that Dumb boss of his wants to be competitive and insist on Hauling Cheap Freight. Or Let's Get By Freight It May Get Better Next Week.
    Every Time I go to change the oil on my truck I see a werner a schnowzer or any of these cut throats trucking companies giving the TA shop The run around when the job is done and it is time to pay the bill.They maintain their trucks only because they fear The DO Do Man or They May Loose The warranty or something like that. so what do you think your chances are getting a good deal on a well maintained company truck. 50/50 :biggrin_25513: I much rather buy me a LOTTO TICKET
     
  4. jpeters72155

    jpeters72155 Light Load Member

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    Oh boy, a lot of good replies on here guys. I know most forum users are over the road drivers with sleepers so I really appreciate the help and the small company I work for really appreciates it. We are just regular folks who are trying to stay competitive and professional in this industry. Its just a shame what truck buying has become because of all these emissions rules.

    Now, I'm still seeing very very few 2013 day cabs. Does anyone know if truck buying is seasonal overall? If it is then maybe I'll tr y to wait until there an inflow of them you know? Maybe they'll start rolling out on the used market later in the spring or early summer or is more like Fall of 2015?
     
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    Hello everyone. Does anyone know why there 2012 day cabs with almost double the mileage of 2011 day cabs are about the same price? $64,000-75,000? I know supply and demand but where is the demand from? Is it the emissions stuff how the newer the truck the less potential for emission problems?
     
  6. mugurpe

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    bear in mind the prices you see are the asked prices, not the sold prices. Also each truck is it's own different truck. You may see an '11 priced for the same as a '12 with comparable mileage, but the '11 might have all new tires and the '12 might need new tires tomorrow. Same with brakes, seats, clutch, etc. By the time you narrow things down and skip the trucks that sketch you out for some reason there may only be 3 trucks anywhere near you that you'll want.

    My recollection from renting penske semis is that the majority of what they have has the ISX 450HP in it. I assume to limit the amount of learning the techs have to do and computer BS & parts they have to keep on hand. If you're buying penske, get the maintenance printouts for the individual units and bring those to your mechanic for blessing/damnation. If you're going to be running mostly locally maybe pick your maintenance shop FIRST, and then get the truck/engine combo they're good at fixing. If your terminal is 2 blocks from a dealership, I'd think seriously about getting whatever they sell there. Helps with turnaround time hiking trucks, waiting for parts, etc. Also you'll want to build a relationship with whoever is fixing your equipment, they're going to be real important to you, and you want to be important to them. There are certain brands of trucks I will never buy because the local dealership is terrible, and sometimes you HAVE to go to the dealership.

    If you end up with a truck needing lots of little 1-2 hour fixes like another poster mentioned they have, parts turnaround and proximity to your yard can make a big difference by the end of the year. Remember, if your mechanic is 30 minutes away, that means TWO guys will spend no less than 2.5 hours round trip if a truck has a problem. If it's during rush hour, double it. If you have to get guys in to hike trucks on their days off because you need the truck for Monday or something, or if they're taking cabs, or whatever the collateral damage from running a truck to the shop just increases.
     
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  7. jpeters72155

    jpeters72155 Light Load Member

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    That is a lot of advice and it all sounds like great advice, thanks mugurpe.

    We are leaning heavy towards Freightliner Cascadias with the DD engines based on parts availability and what I've read on the forum about emissions reliability (least worst from what it seems). You have any advice on that truck make and model? We have a Freightliner dealership about 20 mins away luckily but yeah, we'll need to start building a relationship with the I totally agree on that.
     
  8. mugurpe

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    I don't have specific experience with that equipment ( we have a mix of pre-emissions gear) but it sounds to me like you're on the right track. Maybe don't concentrate on the individual year so much and more on the individual condition of individual trucks you're looking at in you area. Run oil analysis, do some pre-purchase inspections and narrow it down that way. Freightliner can tell you how actually different the 11/12/13s actually are. Maintenance is key.
     
  9. jpeters72155

    jpeters72155 Light Load Member

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    Thanks, I try to do as much research as possible. About the oil analysis, I've read up on that and I'm actually in a tight situation. I'm looking at a couple of trucks and want to do that. Do you know of a place where I'll get the results in 1 or 2 days instead of having to mail it and wait 1-2 weeks? Thanks!
     
  10. mugurpe

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    If you can't get oil analysis done on time my experience has been that a real solid inspection by someone in the know goes a LONG way. A good mechanic knows what a good truck drives and smells like. If you're on a short timeline a real serious inspection by someone in the know who you trust is good enough. And don't tell your mechanic you learned a bunch of stuff on the internet, they'll think yer a jerk, they know way more than the internet does. Really, the internet knows everything, including a lot of things that aren't true or where made up by some 13 year old kid just regurgitating stuff he read elsewhere here on TTR.
     
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    Yeah, agree on the inspection. We found a great mechanic in norcal to do a couple presale inspections . Need to find one near Grand Prarie Tx now. Good call on not mentioning the internet. I still stick the old "I read somewhere" thing haha Thanks for the advice. Got a couple more trucks to look for
     
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