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Are you tired of these rediculous fuel prices?? 1 10.00%
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Hello Drfuller18, I have been looking at these things for a while also.

Just a question, what is the amp load on the system when the unit is operating at 12vdc?
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making hydrogen is like running an engine to make electricity to power your electric car.

what about aluminum??? the alternate ricki ticki... is adding KOH h20 and aluminum to release hydrogen gas.

only problem is the cans are worth more than the hydrogen you get out of them.

math... ya gotta love it.
Emptying out the cans would be enjoyable in my garage/shop if the liquid contents is around 33-36F. and nothing else to do on a Sunday afternoon but play around with some explosive gases and electricity.
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making hydrogen is like running an engine to make electricity to power your electric car.

you'll always use more energy than what you produce. period.

now if you had some dilythium crystals I'd probably believe the claims... I mean capt kirk made them work just fine. other than that, you are on earth and earth rules apply...


what about aluminum??? the alternate ricki ticki... is adding KOH h20 and aluminum to release hydrogen gas.

only problem is the cans are worth more than the hydrogen you get out of them.

math... ya gotta love it.
I bet you never thought how good stainless steel could replace that aluminum.. And last a whole lot longer than aluminum.. So goodbye Aluminum... Dont need you anymore for this! And you may not believe this but Im talking about just enough to cut back on my cost of fuel. Not enough to make a Hydrogen Bomb or something, just reduce the need for so much fuel.. Not totally fuel free.. Ive used no aluminum and its works for me.. Along with regulating the amperage to approx 15 amps I do pretty good. I use lower amperage in the city for you dont need so much, approx 5 amps. Im not selling anything and will not sell anything that involves this.. But its something every individual in this country should check out.. There are alot of sites out there.. Check them out and hell ask, I dont mind telling. I got all my Ideas from the site listed above. The only thing I bought was the MAP sencer, and it wasnt from them..
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Hello Drfuller18, I have been looking at these things for a while also.

Just a question, what is the amp load on the system when the unit is operating at 12vdc?
Hey IGM 462 , I run approx 15 amps on highway and 5 amps in the city, I have to flip a swithch in order to change it but its all there in the cab of my pick up with me... I use a bubbler outside the generator to filter and reduce the possibility of a flashback.. Ive never seen anything that would indicate its ever happened, but who ever feels that lucky that it wouldnt.. I use lye as a catalist to excite the process so the amperage doesnt have to be that high to produce. If you use to much though you cause your vehicle to over heat..
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I didn't mean to imply you were I was just saying to try and not sound like you are pushing a product or it will get you banned. I know there is a member here from rice lake WI and there is a product on e bay being sold from rice lake but I don't remember who it is.

At best you won't see those kind of gains. I've always heard 15% area. you'r not going to double your mileage.

I've built them before just tinkering around. Not for a car though I was just playing. So lets see the one you built. how are you controling flow into the fuel stream?
Yea Im not trying to sell anything accept its all in general worth looking into... Thats it... I got 38% give or take lets say 3% according to how I drive.. A freind of mine got 33% approx. I used the jar method, 2 to be exact and a second jar as a bubbler.. From there I took it and fed it into the air intake, after the filter, not before it. That sight had a hose also running somewhere else, but I didnt split it.. I figured it was easy to just turn it down or off if not needed.. The second hose was for idleing while the generators were on..
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The generator we tried to build got REAL hot at 15 amps and cooked all of the water away in about ten minutes. We were really operating a boiler because of the amount of moisture that collected in our dryer. After correcting that problem with a diffrent metal anode it actualy produces a usable amount of browns gas. We have been experimenting with an adjustable battery booster/charger instead of an alternator and an old briggs 5hp engine for a lab rat! You are correct DrFuller18 about stainless. It conducts electricity pretty good and doesn't disolve away do to the cathodic action that takes place.
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Yea it does get hot!!! I know if you put to much baking soda, sodium hydroxide, potassium hydroxide etc..It will get super hot with less current.. And if you dont regulate the current on it,Ill be watching from way over there somewhere else from it..lol Its an experiment to say the least... Ive know one guy that doesnt add anything to the water... Not one thing..And he does Ok.. about 20%...
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The generator we tried to build got REAL hot at 15 amps and cooked all of the water away in about ten minutes. We were really operating a boiler because of the amount of moisture that collected in our dryer. After correcting that problem with a diffrent metal anode it actualy produces a usable amount of browns gas. We have been experimenting with an adjustable battery booster/charger instead of an alternator and an old briggs 5hp engine for a lab rat! You are correct DrFuller18 about stainless. It conducts electricity pretty good and doesn't disolve away do to the cathodic action that takes place.
Hey man I wanted to tell you what my brother in law did today.. He put a generator together..everything was fine but he had no MAP connected to it.. Well he added to much Baking soda and it boiled and got so hot I told him I didnt think it was going to work.. Sure enough it didnt.. So I helped him re do the generator and we put 6 pinches of baking soda, instead of his one heeping teaspoon full in it and it works great and doesnt get more than luke warm... He ask me if I was sure it was working, so I took a small bottle and submerged it under water, took the tube from the bubbler and let it feed into the MT bottle. Then quickly laid it on the ground and stuck a grill lighter to the end of the bottle.. And sure enough it shot across the yard and hit his barn.. It works, it just takes some study and experimenting to get it fine tuned... Just thought Id share it .. And I know 5 people including myself that has a working unit..
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I'm very impressed to see other people using this! I was very skeptical at first- My boyfriend even more so, but I have one on my car and his truck and we have been very happy with the results.
I'm currently making a gallon sized one for his rig... He thinks bigger is better so we'll try it out! Ha! If it works better at that size all the more power to him! I'll try to keep people updated.
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You use electricity to fire spark plugs anyways.... a spare battery or a better alternator
would quickly fix the power drain. Problem is this and I had an expert mechanic discuss it,
Hydrogen burns hotter than fuel, your cylinders need not only rust coating but the chamber
must sustain a more powerful burst at a much higher temperature. Second problem is you
still need fuel. No the only Hydrogen solution is running completely on water, meaning a well
engineered and designed engine to burn only Hydrogen. Hydrogen storage tanks out of the
question, conversion system is cheap, you'd rather pay $5/gal. on fuel and cannot buy new
rods every week ? How expensive are a pair of 6" rods, you tell me ?
Oh the hustle duuudee.... get back to surfing ! Stop complaining and JUST DO IT !
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