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I was taught to be honest by my parents and grandparents. I'm glad I have not lost that over the years, because there have been many occasions where my honesty hasn't done me a darn bit of good. I still stick too it though, cause if I don't then I would lose respect for myself.
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Believe it or not, my operating costs have not changed that much since the 80's. Insurance is actually cheaper since I pay for it myself as opposed to a weekly/monthly deduction when we were leased to a carrier, tires and oil changes are a little higher, but overall repairs are down and mpg is up. We bought our own trailers; leasing them from carriers is a money maker for THEM. The only big variable is the fuel.

Not a fair comparison of minimum wage (employees) to leased rate/mile (O/O). And the % increase for minimum wage is 116% by the way. You have to look at "what you get" for the $.90/mile....are they providing a trailer? tags? insurance? dispatching? fuel advance? IFTA reporting? and on an on and on......those things cost money. There are probably as many variations on lease contracts out there as there are trucks on the road, so can't speak to your particular situation and haven't been in the lease operator market for several years.
I agree my comparison is in no way scientific and may have been a poor choice. The real point in all of this discussion is that bad brokers are out there and they need to be stopped, be it a joint effort by drivers to just refuse loads and educating good brokers (or wannabe's) or being regulated like the real estate business. Good hard working people should not be treated like slaves just because no one is watching. I believe our joint banter has brought to light many of the things that Lilbit was looking for in the original question. I think we have both brought up different issues that could be helpful in support of an honest broker.
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There is no such thing as a "BACK-HAUL" everything has a start and stop point, If it needs to be moved then it is a load, period. Insurance, tires, fuel,etc... aren't any cheaper heading towards your home than they are going away. BACKHAUL is BS.
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These posts have indeed been helpful to me. I had a basic idea of where I wanted to go, and the posts have helped confirm a lot of my thoughts and added some new ones. I haven't even started on the agent thing yet, which is going to be my starting point, and then once I have learned the ropes, developed a following, and built up my finances, I will fly solo. I like to start educating myself well before taking the first steps of anything. I know I have a lot to learn as far as the procedures, methods, etc. Keep the ideas, info, and feedback coming!
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I hope that your time with an agent isn't a night mare, or worse yet they create problems for you when you want to step out on your own.
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My Grandpa taught me a long time ago that you will do far better in businness making $1 from 1000 people than to try to make $1000 off of 1 person. Before long that 1000 people you treated right will pass your name on to 1000 more...............

Very true- and great advice- you'll never retire off one run... That's how our transportation works, whether it is quoting a rate from our trucking division, or covering overflow runs from our brokerage half...
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I hope that your time with an agent isn't a night mare, or worse yet they create problems for you when you want to step out on your own.
I'm hoping so too. I am going to be very careful about what I get into with whatever broker I start with, and make sure that stepping out on my own will not be an issue. I will also make it very clear from the start that I have that in mind. One broker that I have already spoken to did not flinch at that.

It could be six months to who knows how long before I can get rolling on my own. The one thing that will play a big factor will be the cost of a bond, as I do not plan on having a piddly little $10k, not that I plan on it ever having to be used, but I want something bigger backing me up when I start out. I figure that having a higher bond would help show that I am taking things seriously. Any thoughts on my thinking there?
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Its not the Size of your bond its how you use it.


Ahhhh! Come on. Now that thar was funny I don kair whoyar.

Tell me you weren't thinking the same thing.
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Its not the Size of your bond its how you use it.


Ahhhh! Come on. Now that thar was funny I don kair whoyar.

Tell me you weren't thinking the same thing.
Who? Me? Never!!! Well, almost never.

I'm a trucker, daughter of a trucker, and a metal head musician married to a metal head musician - does that give you a clue as to the sort of mind I have?

I don't intend the bond to ever be used, but I have to have one, so
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I'm the one that wants to become a broker, and I agree with that completely Highballin. As far as I'm concerned, the FSC, detention pay, etc should go to the driver/carrier. The broker's fee should be based on the base rate of the load, FSC should be a separate item and all of it should go to the driver/carrier since I'm not buying the fuel, and any detention pay should also go 100% to the driver/carrier.

I may not end up making a killing like some of these other brokers, but I don't want to. I am just looking to earn some money to do my part to support the family, not buy a mansion and live high on the hog. My whole purpose is to be a driver friendly broker as I understand how bad some brokers screw the drivers over. I may not be able to drive anymore, but I am still a driver at heart, always will be.

BTW - love your avatar!

BHW - I thought that's what you meant, but wanted to make sure. Like I said in my post asking for clarification on that, I plan on making that a standard practice. I'll figure out how to do it once I get into this. I don't see why other brokers don't make this part of their standard practice - well maybe I do - if they share it regularly, without having to be asked, they can't keep screwing the drivers.
Even if you got a % of the demerge it would still be better than what they get now which is Zero most of the time. If you do what you say and can get loads you will have plenty of business unless whit you being honest scares them.And thanks about the aviator, its dirty but clean if you know what I mean,
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Even if you got a % of the demerge it would still be better than what they get now which is Zero most of the time. If you do what you say and can get loads you will have plenty of business unless whit you being honest scares them.And thanks about the aviator, its dirty but clean if you know what I mean,
Some of the things I have read about what some of the brokers out there do, man I can see why O/O's don't like most of them! Hopefully the honesty won't scare too many of them. It may take some time for some to get use to, but I think it will stand me in good stead. I was hoping to find out things that would help set me apart from the crowd a bit, and it is almost scary how easy that may turn out be. I won't get cocky though.

The 'dirty but clean' is what makes that avatar so funny! I love good humor, it helps one get through the day without completely going insane.
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