HHO Fuel Cells

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Ronnocomot

If these things actually worked, wouldn't engine manufacturers offer them?

None do, so make your own conclusion.

read my first post

[JMF2479]

HHO works.... BUT it will void warranty im sure of it, i will tell you why next paragraph. i used it on my truck and with 17K lbs load i got low 9's & 8 wmpgith side wind. I was driving 60 mph though. Now i made mine out of a pickle jar, just to test it. i used lowes 304 stainless steel light switch panels but the problem i came into was the stainless steel was the lowest grade possible. and it rust the bolts and light switches no longer than one hour.

With HHO you will gain better MPG's BUT you need a turner(30-50 $ someone who made), so you can control the amount of fuel going in. THis tuner you will have to cut some wires and connect a few more, so this will void it. if you didn't the truck will notice that the truck/ O2 sensor will think the truck is sucking in more air so the truck will send more fuel to make it 50/50 blend of air and fuel thus no benifet expect more power.

I am currently making a bigger one right now, i just need to go to a shop and and have my 316 Stainless steel sheets flatten drilled and welded. Stainless stell is a B**** to drill.

Any other questions let me know.

[JMF2479]

HHO works.... BUT it will void warranty im sure of it, i will tell you why next paragraph. i used it on my truck and with 17K lbs load i got low 9's & 8 wmpgith side wind. I was driving 60 mph though. Now i made mine out of a pickle jar, just to test it. i used lowes 304 stainless steel light switch panels but the problem i came into was the stainless steel was the lowest grade possible. and it rust the bolts and light switches no longer than one hour.

With HHO you will gain better MPG's BUT you need a turner(30-50 $ someone who made), so you can control the amount of fuel going in. THis tuner you will have to cut some wires and connect a few more, so this will void it. if you didn't the truck will notice that the truck/ O2 sensor will think the truck is sucking in more air so the truck will send more fuel to make it 50/50 blend of air and fuel thus no benifet expect more power.

I am currently making a bigger one right now, i just need to go to a shop and and have my 316 Stainless steel sheets flatten drilled and welded. Stainless stell is a B**** to drill.

Any other questions let me know.

[JMF2479]

Another thing. my truck horsepower is 430. i plan on turnign down the hp to 370 and tune my truck to use a little less diesel and then pump more HHO. i will be around 430-450 HP. Water is Cheap!!! 72 cents for a gallon of distilled water makes 18,000 gallons of gases. baking soda which will help produce more HHO , but just a little. too much could fry your wires and start boiling the water which you don't want steam in your engine. won't harm it but no HP gains.

[violation_rollin]

I've read several of the post here regarding HHO Fuel Cell technology and was wondering. Do any of you have an HHO Fuel Cell installed on your truck and if so would you be interested in sharing your experiences with the rest of us.

It is easy to see that some of you here have a knowledgable background in chemistry, physics, and mechanics. But how many of you have actually logged thousands of miles with this technology in your truck? Furthermore, what have been your struggles in making the system work? I've personally done just this and would very much like to open the discussion for all to learn from each others experiences. I do have a degree in Science and a CDL (strange combination I know)....Long story how that happened, but I'm here now, so let's make the most of it.

The generic term is HHO gas, even though HH OO is the actual gas being produced. Another term that I've heard used is "Brown Gas".

Currently I'm running fuel cells in both of my personal vehicles; 2002 Toyota Camry, and a 1993 ford Ranger. Both have gained 40% in fuel efficeincy with relatively little maintenance required.

My big truck is a 2006 Columbia Frieght Liner with a 60 series Detriot Deisel. I have seen my fuel mileage increase from 5.7mpg up to 10mpg for short runs, but have been unable to maintain these numbers over a long hual run 600-700 miles. The 10mpg burn will work for shorter runs of 200-300 miles.

I will be the first to tell you, that to do this in a big truck is not an easy task and does require daily maintenance, but the results are true and it does work. The goal however is to share information with others to minimize or eliminate alot of the required maintenance and to make the trucking with fuel more similiar to that which I've seen in passenger vehicles.

[violation_rollin]

Make sure that the stainless steel you use is non-magnetic. This is very important. You can easily find this at either Lowes or Home depot. Just carry a magnet with you when shopping. This should cut down on a lot of your rust problems.

[violation_rollin]

JMF, You are correct about the baking soda, you do not want a lot of this, but some might be necessary. This of course depends on the spacing of your plates. How far apart are they? Mine are currently set at 3/4 of an inch apart and I use either distilled or dionized water. Rain water will work rather well if you don't have any other options. Do not use well water, or urine.

There is a method of separating the water from the remaining dirt/rust that will eventually form in the water, while the system is running and it does not require a filter to do so.

[JMF2479]

Stainless steel (SS)plates at lowes and home depot are 304, the lowest grade SS . you should buy 316 SS sheets. They may cost a bet of money but worth it.

Make sure you don't have too much volts. You don't want to boil the water. You should buy a pulse meter to keep the water cooler.

[BrainHurtz]

A lot of spam posts promoting this device. Don't waste money on it. Tighten up the gap, air up the tires, and lay off the hammer will actually get you results instead of enriching a scammer.

[SaiExpress]

Originally Posted by BrainHurtz

Actually while water injection actually does work for diesels the HHO thing is a bunch of hogwash and always has been. The first reason is that you can't get more energy from combining hydrogen and oxygen than have to put in to seperate it. Feeding a miniscule amount of free hydrogen and oxygen atoms into the air intake of a diesel does not magically change the way diesel fuel burns in the cylinders.

Actually, I have installed a hydrogen kit into my truck to burn water with the fuel. I have more pulling power, take-off torque, a smoother & quieter motor, and most important a 20% to 25% increase in fuel mileage (5.5 - 6 mpg to 7 - 7.5 mpg) and a much cleaner exhaust which will benefit all mankind especially future generations to come! Some people have achieved up to 77% increase for passenger cars or SUV.