Flying J adding ULSD

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Well Im not sure about the plans that truck stop chains have for carrying or changing to ULSD. However, the local Flying J has four of their six pumps marked for ULSD in bright neon green signs. Not sure how soon it will be before they carry only ULSD.

[GasHauler]

Sorry to tell you this but all diesel sold for road use by Dec 1 2010 will be ULSD. It's a EPA requirement as it stands today. But I think you can count on the change happening because the oil companies have already put into motion the changes they need to make 100% ULSD at the refineries.

[Ducks]

Originally Posted by GasHauler

Sorry to tell you this but all diesel sold for road use by Dec 1 2010 will be ULSD. It's a EPA requirement as it stands today. But I think you can count on the change happening because the oil companies have already put into motion the changes they need to make 100% ULSD at the refineries.

If the refineries are switching over to all ULSD, does this carry over to the home heating product as well?

[GasHauler]

Originally Posted by Ducks

If the refineries are switching over to all ULSD, does this carry over to the home heating product as well?

No I don't think so. The only requirement for ULSD is for on road use. You still should be able to get Red Dyd diesel and the olther products like home heating oil as well.

[Ducks]

Originally Posted by GasHauler

No I don't think so. The only requirement for ULSD is for on road use. You still should be able to get Red Dyd diesel and the olther products like home heating oil as well.

Thanks, Gashauler! Our furnace is shot and we're trying to decide whether to go with natural gas or stay with an oil burner. It's making my head swim. I asked the question because if the refineries were switching the content of the home heating fuel, I wanted to be sure that if we stay with an oil-fired furnace, the new furnace would work efficiently with the new product. I appreciate your response.

[RickG]

Originally Posted by Ducks

Thanks, Gashauler! Our furnace is shot and we're trying to decide whether to go with natural gas or stay with an oil burner. It's making my head swim. I asked the question because if the refineries were switching the content of the home heating fuel, I wanted to be sure that if we stay with an oil-fired furnace, the new furnace would work efficiently with the new product. I appreciate your response.

Has anybody looked into using biodiesel or WVO in oil fired furnaces ? What about electric heat ? I had an oil furnace and would never have another . See projected increases for heating with oil , natural gas , and electricity here . [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link.

[Ducks]

Originally Posted by RickG

Has anybody looked into using biodiesel or WVO in oil fired furnaces ? What about electric heat ? I had an oil furnace and would never have another . See projected increases for heating with oil , natural gas , and electricity here . [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link.

Thanks, Rick! It's my understanding that we, unfortunately, already pay one of the highest electric rates in the country... and PECO/Exelon has had their rate capped since 1997. The cap will be removed in 2011, at which time we'll be facing huge increases. Even PECO is aware of the problems it will cause consumers.

Peco Energy Co. said it is filing a plan with the Pennsylvania Public Utility Commission that will help its customers deal with the increase in their electric bills expected when its rate caps are lifted at the start of 2011.

The plan would give electric customers of the Philadelphia-based electric and gas utility the option of preparing for the expected increase by making payments into a savings account that pays 6 percent interest. Customers who make the payments would have the payments and the interest they generate applied to their bills after the limit is lifted.

Source: [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link.

I'm not sure I want to go there. I think what bothers me about electric and natural gas is that there are so many variables with the rate structure. Not only do you have the cost of the product, but you also have all the varying "adjustments" and fees. Cost of product changes based on usage level... and there are transmission fees, "cost adjustment charges", "tax adjustments", and so on. When I buy fuel oil, it includes all those rates and if I'm not happy with one supplier, I can go to another... whereas with natural gas and electric, I'm locked in.

My brain hurts.

[GasHauler]

But gas is still cheaper. If I were you I'd look to see if by chance the county or town will be extending a gas line to your property. If so then natural gas would be the only way to go because you could change over more than just your heat. I'd still do a comparison gas vs oil. You're right, forget eclectric and I hope you have a savings plan like we do where they average you monthly bills. The best why to find out is to call the gas company and the oil company to see what they have plans for in the future. But you know there's alot of people dropping the oil heat furance for natural gas. You do save over time.

Plus, you might want to think about gas because I believe that someday the EPA will regulate your underground storage tank and that may cost you a bundle.

[snowkitty]

Hi Ducks,
I wouldn't advise you go with electricity at all. Up here in Canada where I live, the majority of those heating with electricity are in Quebec where it is heavily subsidized by the provincial government there. Here in Ontario, the majority are using natural gas. Only the older homes are on home heating oil. not sure what the infrastructure is like where you are, ...but if it can support it, I'd go with natural gas. It's cleaner, less expensive, and prices are not as volatile due to an abundance of supply.

Hope That Helps.