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    Quote Originally Posted by klondike View Post
    I wasn't talking about me I was talking about the expert who doesn't read past what he wants to see and everyone else to read.

    I even went to all the trouble and two more posts just to show the proof.

    lostonya

    dimwit, must be a butane hauler, better stop steal'n from the company before he get's caught

    NYanke admin.? queer old quack whoever ya are.

    need to go find a pdf to back up my superior knowledge of all things in the trucking Industry, just to show I know more than the average dispatcher and owner-operator at-least.

    Maybe I'll even win an Award some day. Best Managed ### hole Suppository of the year?

    - If a “driver trainer” occasionally drives a commercial vehicle, thereby becoming a “driver”
    (regardless of whether he/she is paid for driving), must the driver record all non-driving (training)
    time as on-duty (not driving)?
    Guidance: Yes.

    kinda answers the question, but note the time is still to be considered on-duty. I know, reading is an acquired skill. Not something highly valued these days, especially by "experts", I've noticed.

    highlite is my own

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    Embarrassing isn't it .

    Many drivers (and companies) are of the (mistaken) belief that if a driver is getting paid that they must be ON-DUTY for that period. that's your expert statement that you backed up with the pdf file?

    are we on the same page yet? Page 10
    Application Guide CCMTA January 5, 2007

    Please inform us, as to which Canadian trucking company pays a driver that is NOT on-duty?

    Mr. expert?

    Please, I've been in this racket for 25 years, union and non-union and never heard of such an occurrence, never? Couldn't happen, at least not legally.

    "cool avatar" though - NOttt

    lostNotfound, would be eh better handle dude.

    Be an expert behind the wheel, not with me Jr. Salesperson.

    whhat's dhee wheel eh?
    Quote Originally Posted by klondike View Post
    lostNfound



    I even said, please?

    i think lostNfound would rather talk than listen, that usually means dress shirt, no tie and a 12 year University degree from Devry Inst., or he's the dispatcher?

    The way he puts information out over something as important as what he is trying to say and then won't comment any further just proves he's office staff trying to get by here as just "one of us".

    Or quite possibly too, just an idiot that doesn't even remember what he said.

    wonderful when there's no one enforcing labour laws, you can just make up #### that sounds smart and then ignore everything when somebody discovers your little secret.

    somebody needs their carpet cleaned

    you even remind of someone that still owes me 7 grand, plus interest. You should ignore that. Is your last name Frederick? When they least expect it the debt collector will show up at their door. sooner or later

    At least Thompson pays his debts, to me at least before he runs away.

    Bankruptcy, the expert Transportation professionals bank.
    Oh, I see you're blathering, but you're assuming you are correct... which you are not. I always provide proof to support what I am posting, you can't. So, no point in discussing it further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prairie Boy View Post
    Tell you what, when working in the oil patch and you're on a lease in the bush soemwhere and waiting your turn to load, you get paid for waiting and log it as waiting but it isn't considered working time as far as your driving hours etc. You have to read the WHOLE book sometimes to get it right.
    Likewise, detention time at a shipper/receiver can be logged as either off-duty or sleeper-berth yet the driver can receive detention pay during that time.

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    Such an angry, insolent and ignorant child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klondike View Post
    you ###-holes are way ahead of yourselves and everybody else, cuz this was about the guy waiting 8 hrs. for his truck at the shop?

    Guess that got lostonya in the all the smart comments. I bet, lost like your brains.

    Such an angry, insolent and ignorant child.

    funny but I can't even laugh at an expert like you. So how much do you owe me?



    I can see my time is wasted here. Much like while I was working for my last half dozen unprofessional expert employers.

    Such lawless, lawbreaking, law defying, experts. caint read but I'm your expert. idiots
    There was no mention of the truck being in the shop other than someone posing the question, which was never answered. Here's the original post to which I responded... correctly:
    Quote Originally Posted by Ratfink View Post
    Humm challenger recently paid a driver 25$ for 8 hours for a breakdown.
    is that 3,12$ an hour?
    Of course to be "legal" he had to log on duty time huh, soooooo that's if your paid from the time you leave to the time you get back + all meals thats not that bad.

    It must be tough going through life carrying all that anger all the time. You should consider counselling to help you get over that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klondike View Post
    ?


    how can you log something as waiting time, and not count that as working time, as you call it? If it's logged in your log book it counts as on-duty.

    you make no sense, there might be an exemption for log haulers or oil patch but were not talking about them here.

    learn how to read.
    I can teach you how to read. Logging has some variations in parts of Canada. Such as the oilpatch which is what I pointed out to you.

    Don't just leartn how to read, learn to interpret what you're reading. You try to come across as an expert in a field in which you have no special knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prairie Boy View Post
    I can teach you how to read. Logging has some variations in parts of Canada. Such as the oilpatch which is what I pointed out to you.

    Don't just leartn how to read, learn to interpret what you're reading. You try to come across as an expert in a field in which you have no special knowledge.
    Good advice !! (I thought you were no longer a valuable contributor to society because of your age) LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by liner View Post
    Good advice !! (I thought you were no longer a valuable contributor to society because of your age) LOL
    You were browsing too were you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by klondike View Post
    lostNotfound, your real actual reply and the real actual comment in question,

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    If his truck was in the shop why would he log on duty?

    Many drivers (and companies) are of the (mistaken) belief that if a driver is getting paid that they must be ON-DUTY for that period.

    Quote:
    Commercial Vehicle Drivers Hours of Service Regulations - Application Guide

    28. How does compensation relate to on-duty time?
    Guidance: No relationship


    http://ccmta.ca/english/pdf/HoS_Application_Guide.pdf (pg.10)


    Nice try, told ya, he's only here to blow smoke up your arses.

    Office staff these days.

    Impossible for the insolent children to admit even when they're caught in a lie.

    Hope you won't be wasting any more of my valuable time, or I may have to file a complaint with the labour board.
    where's that Teamsters guy at?

    dare to compare

    lostNfound
    There was no mention of the truck being in the shop other than someone posing the question, which was never answered. Here's the original post to which I responded... correctly:
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    Originally Posted by Ratfink
    Humm challenger recently paid a driver 25$ for 8 hours for a breakdown.
    is that 3,12$ an hour?
    Of course to be "legal" he had to log on duty time huh, soooooo that's if your paid from the time you leave to the time you get back + all meals thats not that bad.

    It must be tough going through life carrying all that responsibility all the time. You should consider counselling to help you get over that.

    great when you can just make things up as you go along, a good Union could help prevent that kind of grief.
    In 17 posts the only thing you have right so far is which post I quoted; which was not, however, the information I was responding to.

    Nice try... you get a "D+", but only because I am in a generous mood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klondike View Post
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by oldcrow
    If his truck was in the shop why would he log on duty?

    Many drivers (and companies) are of the (mistaken) belief that if a driver is getting paid that they must be ON-DUTY for that period.

    Quote:
    Commercial Vehicle Drivers Hours of Service Regulations - Application Guide

    28. How does compensation relate to on-duty time?
    Guidance: No relationship


    http://ccmta.ca/english/pdf/HoS_Application_Guide.pdf (pg.10)

    that is the original comment and your original reply , I was questioning.


    In 17 posts the only thing you have right so far is which post I quoted; which was not, however, the information I was responding to.

    Nice try... you get a "D+", but only because I am in a generous mood.

    18 now but I think you'll have to be labelled a Troll and ignored.

    I did try,

    lostoNya
    You are the very definition of a troll and a liar, spewing your unsubstantiated garbage. And now, you are done.

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    I worked for mckinnon 4 years, when the old man was fully encharged of it things were very good i heard, to the point of when work was slow he made sure o/o got their share by slowing company trucks (do not quote me on that one), but now that the rest of the family is in things are going down,) a piece of advice, stay far away from bucky trucking out of edmonton, am warning you

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