Is it profitable to offer transportation services with a dually diesel pickup and a fifth wheel trailer around Montreal?
What are the typical freight rates per km?
What kind of license is needed to drive a Ford F-450? The 450 has less than 4500 kg, but with the trailer has 15.000 kg GCWR.
What kind of insurance is needed?
Do you have to speak French?
Thanks for any related information or comments.
freight in Quebec
Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by ISB, Nov 1, 2010.
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Restricted A licence would be needed. A licence without air brake endorcement.
Insurance is commercial with freight coverage.
Speaking french would help, seems some people there don't even make an attempt at english. Meanwhile if they came to ontario and some place didn't have a person to speak french the news papers would be out, government involved. -
...and be careful. They tend to give you a ticket for just about anything. And the fines seem to always be $420.00!
The best (or saddest) part is that the ticket is in French only. It took over 2 months to get them to send a translation but we had to pay it within 30 days. Very frustrating that they seem to make the rules for the rest of Canada -
ISB, there are a couple of issues to deal with, first off, are you sure your F450 is only rated less than 10,000 pounds? or 4500kg, they usually are rated higher to around 12,000 pounds or more. The F350s are usually rated to just under 10,000 to avoid having to get a higher class of licence. Secondly, for Quebec, they do not have a restricted licence as such, only Class 1 with two different endorsements, a class f for airbrakes and a Class M for a Manual transmission. You would need the class 1 without endorsements. You also to qualify for a Class 1, you need 3 years of Class 5 experience and of course medical and driver demerits of less than 4. The class A(r) is only an Ontario licence classification and it covers any vehicle that does not meet the following 3 conditions. A 45 foot tandem trailer with the spread at the back of the trailer, a fifth wheel hookup and full airbrake system, the tractor needs to be an 8 speed manual minimum and has a fifth wheel. There is only two exceptions to this, drivers over 65 can take the retest in an automatic and the gravel haulers with their 140,000 dump and pup with pintle are allowed to be tested. All others are SOL. Speaking French would be a help as it shows that you want to get their business, a little tip for driving is if stopped or you need help, start speaking french to them, or what you think french is, it will hurt their ears and they will start speaking English to you.
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Keep in mind the most important information, there is nothing coming out from Quebec for Ontario drivers. Quebec companies have monopoly on freight going out, they make sure that only Quebec based companies pull their freight. If there is no one available then they farm out the work. I have nothing against this. However Ontario companies should do the same to Quebec drivers.
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Thank you all for the information.
I received my immigration visa from Canada for which I previously declared I'm going to live in Montreal. I went this year, to look how is like to live there. I had to go back, but I liked what I saw and decided to move to Canada.
To work in the profession the things aren't promising, really to get any kind of job at arrival. I may test the job market next year, but I need a backup plan and one of the options is to set up a small venture.
Since I will need a car anyway, one of the options would to buy something bigger with truck engine and high towing capacity.
BTW, I have noted that my friends in Montreal drive very aware about every possible detail. They stop for a minute or two to study the 3-4 parking signs that may be on a post and so on. Quite a contrast with Peru.
About the drivers license, the official web site says the following of the Class 5:
http://www.saaq.gouv.qc.ca/en/driver_licence/classes/class_5.php
Net mass in my understanding would be curb or dry weight. I didn't saw the weight of the F-450, but I figured it to be bellow 3700 kg. Apparently, there are no limits on the attached trailer as long the vehicle has less than 4500 kg.
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With that type of setup, I would try working in the oilpatch providing "hot shot" services. Is it a flatbed you have, for a trailer? Plus, no worries about french, they only speak english in the patch, or maybe ukranian
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