Alberta Imbecile Factor Over 50%

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  1. belowspeedlimit

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  3. nate980

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    I can't say that not4hire was taking offence, more like pointing out a fact lol.
     
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  4. nate980

    nate980 Road Train Member

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    How are out of province people taking all the jobs? If there was enough "true Albertans" they wouldn't need to bring people from out of province lol
     
  5. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    "Flags by day lights by night. "

    I'll post the page here, give me a second.
    Don't let the 12' 6" confuse you. The proper Metric width is 3.85M = 12' 7.5"
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD] Permit Conditions – Summary Only
    DIMENSION

    [/TD]
    [TD="width: 50%"] CONDITIONS

    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"] Over 2.60 metres wide (8’ 6")

    [/TD]
    [TD="width: 50%"] Flags by day
    Warning lights by night

    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"] Over 3.05 metres wide (10’)

    [/TD]
    [TD="width: 50%"] As above PLUS 2 dimension signs, front and back

    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"] Over 3.35 metres wide (11’)

    [/TD]
    [TD="width: 50%"] As above PLUS 1 or more flashing lights

    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"] Over 3.85 metres wide (12’ 6")

    [/TD]
    [TD="width: 50%"] As above PLUS
    1 pilot vehicle *behind when on 4-lane road *in front when on 2-lane road
    No movement from 3:00 p.m. until midnight on a Friday or a day preceding a statutory holiday
    No movement on Sunday or a statutory holiday

    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"] Over 4.45 metres wide (14’ 7")

    [/TD]
    [TD="width: 50%"] Flags, signs, flashing lights
    On 2-lane road 1 pilot and 1 trailing vehicle
    On 4-lane road *up to 5.5 m (18’) needs 1 trailing vehicle, *over 5.5 m (18’) needs 1 pilot and 1 trailing vehicle
    No movement from 3:00 p.m. until midnight on a Friday or a day or preceding a statutory holiday
    No movement on Sunday or a statutory holiday
    Travel during DAYLIGHT HOURS ONLY

    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"] Over 5.49 or 5.5 metres wide (18’)

    [/TD]
    [TD="width: 50%"] As above PLUS policies on movement of buildings as in policy numbers: mts26e (over 4.45m) OR mts26h (Must not detain school buses)
    Stopping on provincial highways only permitted at designated truck pull-outs (except for emergencies and power line lifting)
    Travel during DAYLIGHT HOURS ONLY

    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]


    And remember, if the "D" Sign or other Overdimensional signs are NOT required, it is illegal to display them. Put the darn things away. Heck, you see tractors bobtailing and the #### sign is on the bumper or over the roof etc.



    (4) A dimensional sign referred to in Schedules 2 and 3 must be
    (a) kept in good repair,
    (b) kept clean and legible at all times, and
    (c) covered, folded or removed when not required to be displayed.



     
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  6. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    And, in Alberta, daylight hours means one hour before sunrise to one hour after sunset.

     
  7. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    No, 1/2 hour before and 1/2 hour after.
     
  8. not4hire

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    Well, that's what I had always understood, but when I went looking for the printed word all I could find was the definition I posted as quoted from the current "Commercial Vehicle Dimension and Weight Regulation." I couldn't find a definition for "daylight", only "darkness."

    BC defines daylight:
     
  9. Prairie Boy

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    I'll check on a permit tomorrow. I found this on a US site. Don't know ho accurate it is. They call Provinces "Providences".


    The rule of 1/2 hour before sunrise until one full hour after sunset is observed in Alberta. There is not travel allowed at all on Fridays for loads that exceed 3.85 meters in width (12′ 7″). Travel is otherwise allowed and unrestricted on Saturdays unless stated on your permit. Night travel is permitted for loads that are over length as long as you have 1 rear pilot car/escort vehicle and are on multiple lane roads. If your shipment is no longer than of 42 meters (137′ 10″) on a single lane road you will be required to have1 front pilot car/escort vehicle and 1 rear pilot car/escort vehicle. Weekend travel is permitted for loads that are over length only. If your shipment is in excess of 4.45 meters (14′ 7″) in width you will be permitted to travel only during daylight hours. If over 3.85 meters (12′ 7″) in width you may not travel on Sundays. There is not travel permitted on the following holidays: New Years day, Provincial day, Good Friday, Victoria day, Canada day, Family day, Labour day, Thanksgiving day, Remembrance day, Christmas day and on Boxing day.
     
  10. not4hire

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    I happen to have my permit book with me. I have Alberta annuals for General Commodities, Empty Special Haul Equipment, Mobile/Modular Structures, Oil & Gas Production Equipment as well as a trip permit for a 4.9 m (16') wide load I moved recently. Some permits make reference to moving/not moving in darkness/daylight, but do not provide a definition for either.

    My SK annual does reference sunset/sunrise specifically.
     
  11. Prairie Boy

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    You are correct. 1 hour before and after and I apologize.

    BC must be different because the mountains block the sun. LOL
     
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