why oil hauling is going to the crapper

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  1. dustinbrock

    dustinbrock Road Train Member

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    One of the companies I haul for had a vote to unionize when some o/o had a little mutant. Almost all voted against it. As a union member you would still have no power.

    If we told husky energy that we weren't moving the oil because we were going on strike they would have another fluid haul company in there that same day taking over, the oils gotta move and they don't care about our little disputes. Because of that your employer would know you couldn't strike without becoming unemployed and would still walk all over you.

    The union would protect the employee and o/o from the flu I'd haul company but wouldn't protect them both from the big oil companies who wouldn't want to be caught up in all that crap.
     
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  3. Grimm 1

    Grimm 1 Light Load Member

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    Paying union guys a few extra bucks is worth far more than seeing any disruption in the movement of oil.

    You say finding good drivers to haul out of the patch is tough. Its an isolated area. You're going to have to pay a premium to get people to work there in the first place.
    So I can figure its safe to assume that anyone who would work through a work disruption or strike would want to be paid Very well to do so.

    Unions will also put an end to the LMOs which you imply that are going to destroy the patch.
     
  4. belowspeedlimit

    belowspeedlimit Medium Load Member

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    Not as isolated as one would think. DB you around Lloyd?
     
  5. dustinbrock

    dustinbrock Road Train Member

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    2 of my trucks are. Other 2 in bonnyville
     
  6. belowspeedlimit

    belowspeedlimit Medium Load Member

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    So it's not isolated by any means. grimm there is some civilization in the patch its not all bush and mud.
     
  7. dustinbrock

    dustinbrock Road Train Member

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    The company I work for that tried to unionize was out of elk point. Not llyod though.
     
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    belowspeedlimit Medium Load Member

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  9. dustinbrock

    dustinbrock Road Train Member

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    Their sister company ecan.
     
  10. justlake

    justlake Bobtail Member

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    I went to work for a company in Saskatchewan who had two trucks on with Plains, 5 on 5 of,one truck and tridem was hauling infield, emulsion, water, clean oil. I was on super b on the infield from the tank farm to the well head, new oil sales. After three days my truck was parked. Sent home and then called back 9 days later to haul infield with the tridem. Just got 3 days in again. On the days that I worked I was doing 9 loads per day, the other driver was doing 5. They told me that that more work was on the way and to hold on. So I did, as I had not hauled oil before and they trained me. One Day and set me lose to do 9 loads a day for them. I thought I owed it to them to be loyal. At the pipeline I meet up with a couple of other o/o. They asked why they had not seen much of me. I told them. They both offered me a job starting right now, although I said thanks but no. It has been two weeks and the company I was with will not return my calls and I did not get paid for the days I put in.
    There is always two sides to every story and I know this is not always the case.
    And for me, an individual I know in Grand Prairie said to be true to the one that gives you a start. I did and it did not work for me.
    This is not always the case I know.
     
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  11. seabring

    seabring Road Train Member

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    This crap happens a lot more than you might think. Plenty of "owner operators" out there that should not be employing people.
    Just take the better offer and move on. Lodge a complaint with the Labour Board/Employment standards and let them handle getting you your money. If you want to you can take it to civil court if you think it's worth the hassle, depends how much your owed if it's worth that hassle. The labor board loves tracking down these scum bags that deduct from your pay or don't pat at all. It takes time but they get them in the end.
    Take the better job offer and keep moving forward with the better job. Once you get on top of things financially then you're the one with the time to wait for the labor board to get you your money from the last scum bags you worked for. There's plenty of opportunity in fluid hauling , it just takes some time to learn "who's who in the zoo" , once you been around a while the better job offers will be coming in daily. And those pricks who ripped you off will not even be worth worrying about!
     
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