Am I the only crude tanker owner op asking himself: What else is out there??

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  1. Trinity Xpress ltd

    Trinity Xpress ltd Bobtail Member

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    Hello, I'm new to this forum, but came here mostly in search of info. I've had a Class 1 since 99, but only owned a truck or trucks since 2009. I've only hauled crude in tri axles and Super B and pulled semivac trailers in recent years.
    In 1999, I got my license hauling pulp wood in 8' and then went on a harvest run down to TX. Other than that, I haven't really done any non-oilfield driving work.

    At this point, I am not really interested in leaving the current work I have, but am curious as to what's out there for non-oilfield work. I wouldn't mind getting a truck on hauling livestock or decks with a driver, just to see what that kind of work is like, but I'm not really sure about it. Just figure it would be nice to have one truck not involved with the energy sector. Get an idea of what trucking looks like without FR coveralls, hard hats, and placards.
     
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  3. belowspeedlimit

    belowspeedlimit Medium Load Member

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    I think you would have a really hard time running your truck for rates less than oilfield rates. Even if times are slow your probably still making more than running flat out pulling a van or deck hauling non oilfield related cargo. I used to run step deck as a company driver for percentage and some of the loads I couldn't believe the owner would even consider putting on his trailers for the low rates. Lumber had to be the worst. Just my thoughts and also consider its been awhile since I been out there. Good luck. If my info seems incorrect guys please correct me and help the gent make an educated decision
     
  4. 04 LowMax

    04 LowMax Medium Load Member

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    Well, you could haul agricultural commodities, grain for example. But everything always has it's price. No TDG, no PPE, no 10 pages of safety does and don'ts, nobody looking over your shoulder or watching you on a cam as you load or unload. No worrying about overnight parking in a dangerous goods only approved parking lot. No worries about catastrophic mixes or spills (or even, god forbid, a horrible 1/2 litre of diesel on the ground somewhere). No site specific safety training to get a facility card for every place you go into. (All while they try to make you believe it's for your safety and has nothing to do with covering their #####. Hey, you got "training", something happens, it's not the companys fault). With grain, you actually get to apply common sense to safety, and make your own decisions as to what's safe for you. The price, of course, less money. But it's an individual choice. For me, I'll take the freedom, independence, and old school common sense, and let's just get er done, any day over what I feel is a swirling pool of rules and beauracracy that trucking of dgr has become. Just my thoughts, not trying to light anyone's fire. We all do what we have to do.
     
  5. dustinbrock

    dustinbrock Road Train Member

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    Oh heck yes. You aren't the only one looking into other ventures. With the #### kicking we just took up here one can't help but start planning for plan b.

    There's a lot more to the factor of more or less money. Oilfield pays way more but come year end usually repairs and wear and tear are very high up there and I'm starting to wonder with the way things are going if it will.make sense if it gets any lower.
     
  6. Trinity Xpress ltd

    Trinity Xpress ltd Bobtail Member

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    That's what I've been noticing, we do well initially, but the shortened life cycle of our equipment and repair costs really take up the lions share of the profits. I've had a few good years, worked up to 4 trucks, but the future isn't looking bright.
    We are due to buy another new truck this year and replace an existing older truck, but it isn't making sense too at this point. With the oil co's cutting rates the way they are, It just doesn't offer enough reward to take the risk.

    I can already see that trend taking hold with most of the people who I work with. There are alot of guys that are due to upgrade or replace trucks and there is a hesitancy to do so.

    If it continues, in another 2 years we'll be back where we were in 2010-2011 with a huge shortage of trucks and rates will have to go up substantially to keep people in the industry and whatever savings the oil co's get now will be lost then. They don't seem to realize that when they cut rates so dramatically owner ops and small operators stop buying equipment, once that happens, it takes a lot retain those people because you've only got whatever term they have left owing and they'll head for greener pastures or they'll refinance and find something else immediately. Or, if they're severely extended when the rates drop, they'll just quit and give trucks back.

    None of which will get oil from the field to the plant, but somehow, this basic economics escapes oil producers.

    The other troubling thing I've been seeing is that there are not as many new owner operators in our field. It used to be typical for a guy to drive a year and then he would go buy a truck. In the past year, that isn't happening. We are seeing a lot of guys go from one to two or two to three, but not new owner op's. Or at least, not with the fleet I work in.
     
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