Ontario Owner-Operators today, is it worth it?

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  1. nate980

    nate980 Road Train Member

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    Also I worked at that company and there was plenty of times I was in my sleeper having a nap getting paid because I was waiting. Also doesn't count against your 70.
     
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  3. 2Girls_1Truck

    2Girls_1Truck Medium Load Member

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    I did the math right in the post, did you see OT and living allowance? Or are you asking questions you already know the answers to, and if so, why?

    Without knowing when OT starts, how a living allowance is paid (or how much) and if detention is paid at the same rate as production, it would seem to be like asking me solve $30(a) + X(b) + Y + Z = > or = to $3000.

    I guess we'll just take your word for it, since everyone knows truck drivers and especially trucking companies never fib to try to "one-up" the next guy.
     
  4. nate980

    nate980 Road Train Member

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    Ill give you the answers you need:

    ot is after 10 hours a day
    living allowance is 55 a day tax free by the way
    waiting time is paid the same

    havent worked there in about 3 years but it is a good company where you can make a good paycheque. Better than Most thats for Sure. Not trying to fib anyone and I have nothing to gain by telling lies. I quit because I met a girl and moved back home. Plain and sinple. You seem to be against prosperity though by saying it would be hard to get 3000 a week...
     
  5. Pullin2

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    I'll have to vouch for Nate here - He not only left the patch for a girl, but he went to work for Allied driving a former Blue Thunder Truck !!!!! Talk about taking one for the team !!!

    If that doesn't get respect, nothing out there will ..... unless you went for a Starbucks interview wearing a Tim Horton's apron !
     
  6. Prairie Boy

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    Do you have any idea what the word OVERTIME means?>??? Even at starting rate of $30.00 x 50 hrs. ST= $1500.00 PlusOT at $45.00 for 22 = $990.00 Plus Hol Pay at 10% (HP plus vacation pay) = $2490.00 Plus $2.00 per hour RRSP = $144.00 Plus Tax Free Subsistence of at least $50.00 per day = $350.00 Now we are at $2984.00 If you add up another 10 at OT plus Hol Pay another $495.00 but in fact most drivers wind up with paid waiting time in the patch that does not count towards total hours on duty. You can work 24 hours straight if you like, just as long as all the extra hours are after the driving hours. But please stay home, someone has to look after the $15. $18. dollar an hour jobs that are available in your area.
     
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  7. J.Shade7

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    Just retired 24 years military as a trucker and heavy equipment operator , looking to join an owner operator for team runs out of Calgary. I need coaching for my military to civilian transition.

    3 years Class 1 /Dry van/Tanker Jet fuel/lowboy/Step deck

    Jason
     
  8. taxihacker66

    taxihacker66 Road Train Member

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    Try BISON? But if I were you I would go look for a job as heavy equipment operator.
     
  9. The blue guy

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    What are brokers paying from Toronto to Montreal and back pulling a Container? Im asking the gross.
     
  10. Prairie Boy

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    The worse money in trucking is containers. It's gross to ask someone to work for peanuts.
     
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  11. 2Girls_1Truck

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    Please save your sarcasm, rhetoric and incredulity. Personal insults and assumptions don't have any place in a serious discussion either, they tend to detract from, rather than bolster your arguments.

    Average judge's salary in Canada: $175,000/year. Requires a Bachelor degree, a doctorate in Law and most likely a few dozen years as a Crown Prosecutor/equivalent legal expertise.

    A Member of Parliament in Canada earns $165,000/year and most possess similar education levels to lawyers, professors or are members of professional associations.

    At your stated pay levels, your company drivers are earning upwards of $150,000/year in a position that requires no education and is classified as unskilled.

    The average company driver salary is $48,000/ year and does not even earn a position on the top 100 highest paying jobs in 2014 according to Canadian Business. The lowest salary on that list is $61,000/year.

    Not that it has any bearing on what I've stated, but I realize there are plenty of drivers earning above that average, since I have earned well above it myself. That also means there are plenty of drivers earning well below the average, or the average would be higher.

    Making someone out to be some kind of moron because they are not earning more than 3 times what the average person in their field is earning says more about you than the people you are speaking down to.

    I also keep an eye on job postings from across Canada (more for my amusement than anything else, I've never seen anything that would entice me to relocate thousands of miles) and your numbers are complete outliers. Every job I see is paying roughly the same wages in BC, Alberta and Ontario as they are in Atlantic Canada despite the much higher cost of living.

    As a team, our household income places us in the top 15% of wage earners in Canada, which hardly makes us "anti-prosperity."

    We're done with this, as your mind is already made up, as is mine.
     
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