Washington State length laws

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  1. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    I know/think the State of Washington has a length law of 53' & there is a permit for 3' overhang.

    What I am curious about is flip ramps on a high mount trailer? They make the trailer longer than 53' & high mounts do NOT fall under the specialized transport that stingers do.

    Any info appreciated.
     
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  3. wonderdog24

    wonderdog24 Medium Load Member

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    Need permit for ramps to be used
     
  4. Mr&MrsPete

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    The ramps are included in the overall length. The LOAD can be no longer than 56'. Including overhang. And they will measure the load not the trailer
     
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  5. LBZ

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    Thanks, wanted to clarify if the 3' permit covered just over hang or if it would include the flip ramps being extended.

    Length – Divisible Loads
    Measurement for a single trailer will be from the front
    of the trailer, or load, to the rear of the trailer, or load,
    whichever provides the greater distance up to 56 feet.

    Measurement for double trailers will be from the front of
    the first trailer, or load, to the end of the second trailer or load, whichever provides the greatest
    distance up to 68 feet. Measurements shall not include nonload carry devices designed for the
    safe and efficient operations of the semi-trailer or trailer; for example: external refrigeration
    unit, resilient bumper, and aerodynamic shells.
    The following are exempt from some
    restrictions:
    • Single trailer permits.
    • Double trailers permits.
    • 61-foot non-divisible loads with
    legal overhangs.
    • Vehicles with a front overhang not
    more than 4 feet beyond the 3-foot
    legal front overhang.
    • Single Fixed Load Permit (must
    not exceed 45 feet overall length)

    Load Restrictions
    The load must be reduced to a practicable minimum, even if additional vehicles are required
    to transport the divided item. Loads created by welding, bolting, or tying will be construed
    as divisible, unless proven with good cause not to be divisible.
    • Tractor and Semi-trailer or Full Trailer – Trailers in excess of 8 feet 6 inches wide or
    legal length of 53 feet, or the permitted length of 56 feet, shall not exceed the length or
    width of the load, unless the added dimension is necessary to spread the weight of load
    to protect the infrastructure.



    http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/NR/rdonlyres/EE2D33C7-E6A0-4C58-9BD9-AE05C003B327/0/vehicleguide.pdf
     
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  6. snowwy

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    so, if i'm reading that right. you can haul 60 ft rebar on a 53 foot. with 4 overhang front and 3 overhang in rear. (if possible)

    but not on 48 foot trailer.


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  7. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    You COULD haul ANY non-divisible load in any state, but it has to be permitted, as far as cars are concerned as it bumper to bumper, I have already made some drops in Portland and proceeded to make my last drop in Kent,Wa with ONE van on the trailer that was over the front of the trailer a foot, Yep, had to unstrap it and back it up a foot to make them happy, even thou the rest of the trailer was empty.

    I proceeded to get smart at that point and said what about that 53' reefer that just pulled through here? DOT said, "they have an exemption" asked if I could see it, he said he didn't have time to look it up!

    All three of those west coast states are getting to be a PITA.
     
  8. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    CA = CARB.
    OR = IFTA not good enough for them.
    WA = Length laws among other things.

    Which is why based out of IL with no regular shipments for me was reason enough to leave them off of my IRP.
    Was looking at something today(which I did not get) that I would have had to go to the DMV to put some of them on.
     
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  9. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    Gotcha Brad, I know, we are out there all the time, in fact today I have one truck in Wa, one truck in Or. 2 trucks in Cali, and two more heading to Cali. BTW, hows the new trailer working?
     
  10. LBZ

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    Still remember going up 5 & OR State Troopers sitting at the bottom of 6% grades running radar coming down the hills. Was always curious what leeway(if any) they allowed trucks? Have only been there once & that was back in 2007, but it obviously got my attention.

    As far as the new trailer, Dorsey & you both were right. Get a stinger. Far easier(for me) to find loads for that vs this 6/7 crap. Maybe that will change with the markets, but as of now, definitely a stinger.

    Did you build the one you were working the plans up on?
     
  11. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    Not yet, still hoping, praying, that somehow someway I can make an Argosy work. If I have to use a hood it really screws up what I was trying to accomplish, looked into a DPU for a non-emissions Argosy, but honestly, between the cost of the conversion, the maintenance on it, ( only has one fifth the life of a DPU on a new truck) and the performance loss/issues, it just isn't worth it.

    Have been looking at dual fuel trucks, running diesel everywhere except Cali, and CNG there, but again, complicated and VERY expense, it just sucks that you can not buy a new COE in this day and age.

    Have a good one!
     
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