power take off stuck in on position

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  1. rolls canardly

    rolls canardly Road Train Member

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    Hello all; Rolls Canardly here,
    I got a problem that I hope someone can give me a tip on.
    I installed a new transmission in a 2004 Freightliner M-2 with a rollback body.
    I installed the PTO with the same shims that were originally on,
    and it seems like there is not space between the teeth now and PTO will not come out of gear.
    Transmission shifts fine.
    This is an Eaton Trans. and PTO bolts to side of case with 6 bolts.
    Why would the spacing be any different unit to unit?
    I would hate to drain the oil and put another shim in there from a shim pack
    if there is an easy way out of this that I am just not seeing.
    Need another old guy with grease in his blood that did this more than twice - like me.
    Seems I had the same issue the last time i did this job. What am I missing here???

    Thx for your time,
    Rolls Canardly
    "Rolls down one hill - Canardly get up the next."
     
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  3. SL3406

    SL3406 Medium Load Member

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    There is no easy way out. You need to take it apart and add shims. If every transmission and pto were the same there would be no need for shims. The shims are to account for manufacturing tolerances.
     
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  4. rolls canardly

    rolls canardly Road Train Member

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    Guess I just had to hear what I already knew; you are spot on.
    Thank you!!:biggrin_25514:
     
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  5. rolls canardly

    rolls canardly Road Train Member

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    Now, hold on there just a cotton pickin' minute!
    The previous "thanks" above still is valid;
    however,
    as them there -science guys- say, "upon further review,"
    I drained the oil - and seemed to remember somthing about the air actuator from the last time I had this apart.
    I took the airline off, and the four bolts out of it, and took out the air shifter fork that is spring returned.

    Sure enough; behind the fork, so it could not come out of mesh with the transmission, there was a piece of steel.
    When the tranny blew, it flew behind the slider to jam it in gear.
    Cleaned it, refilled tranny with another 5 gal. pail of synthetic at $180.00 a pop, and we're in the wind again!!!

    So........ we got a new engine for $14,000, a new 6 speed manual transmission for $2,300.00, at eleven months
    of a one year warranty it sounded like a box of rocks and I pulled it out. Replaced under warranty, ok; for another $400.00
    but all said and done it's been a hell of a ride.

    So have a great one, and see you on the next go-round,
    Rolls Canardly
    "Rolls down one hill, Canardly get up the next."
     
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