Hello new guy here, question regarding car hauling "not for hire"

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by rogue-wave, Nov 12, 2014.

  1. rogue-wave

    rogue-wave Bobtail Member

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    Hello all, been reading this forum for a while now and there is a wealth of great info here.
    I have a different kind of question regarding hauling cars for myself (not for hire). These are cars/trucks that I buy for my own private use (small time car collector). I was thinking about a 3 or 4 car hauler. I would like to be able make a trips from Texas to lets say, Washington state buying a few trucks along the way and returning home to play and work on em. Do CDL laws still apply to this scenario? will I still need a CDL? Thanks for your help

    I will buy the right truck to haul the trailer... 1 ton, 1 1\2 ton or larger depending on what works best for the best price. I've been a car (mostly truck) guy for 40 years. Also tell me how YOU would do it.

    thank you for your help or comments, good or bad.
     
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  3. JTNTLLC

    JTNTLLC Bobtail Member

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    A along as you can prove they are your property and your not being compensated for the hauling then you should be fine running not for hire...but buying 3-4 cars at a time may prove hard to justify to DOT if they stop you. I personally would go enclosed with a 3 car and put not for hire on the rig and you shouldn't ever have problems....
     
  4. JTNTLLC

    JTNTLLC Bobtail Member

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    And to be completely honest, depending infrequency of purchases I problem wouldn't mess with shipping myself. Just find a carrier you like and let them mess with everything. Chalk it up as an expense for your hobby
     
  5. rogue-wave

    rogue-wave Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the reply, I agree with just paying someone to pick em up but is very important for me to see these things in person and bang out a cash deal...in person. I will typically crawl all over the vehicle checking it out. Keep in mine, I'm not talking about high dollar stuff, this is just a hobby that I can finally afford to enjoy.
    Thanks again
     
  6. JTNTLLC

    JTNTLLC Bobtail Member

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    Well hopefully someone who has done it will chime in...but as a car hauler, I see it hard to prove your innocence when stopped on the road for blowing a weigh station because your "not for hire" yet your hauling 3-4 used cars across the country. Most car collections or refinishers that do it for fun only work on 1-2 at a time. Much less transport more than 1-2
     
  7. JTNTLLC

    JTNTLLC Bobtail Member

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    Maybe you consider getting your own authority and putting a driver in the truck, not only do you get what you need out of it, but if done correctly, it will make you decent additional income
     
  8. PIAredneck

    PIAredneck Bobtail Member

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    u need 2 check with the state laws where u live some states u don't need a cdl but other states u do, some states like ks if u drive out of state u can get a non-commercail class a that is good in all states even tho some other states will give u hell over it
     
  9. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    Going over the big hills west of I25 sucks in a loaded down dually if you are going to WA. People do it, but it will show you just how small a dually is in comparison to a class 8 truck.
    Then add seasonal chain laws, various fuel/length permits & DOT will pull you over just to say hello. You will need to watch each states signs to know if you need to go through their
    scale house. That goes by declared weight on your plates & would think the only exemption would be CA. Though that may have changed?

    The need for a CDL will be dependent on the gross weight, not your intentions for the cars. Will still need a USDOT number.

    I know you mentioned wanting to go over the cars top to bottom in person. But honestly, on average you would be able to fly in & out of areas & ship the cars cheaper than transporting yourself.
     
    tsavory Thanks this.
  10. FCMINC

    FCMINC Bobtail Member

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    Going thru this now, will tell ya what I know. Auto dealer not for hire hauling my own vehicles. Was stopped in Kc, Mo for complete vehicle inspection, f350 dually, easyhaul 3-4 car wedge, had 4 on. No cdl, no log book, no dot number, 26000lb truck tag. Weighed 36000, and yes you need all the above, anything over 26000 lbs, which you will probably be with 3 loaded, I usually am. In addition once you cross state line you will need apportioned plates and ifta tags for each state you travel thru. Major pain if your not hauling a lot. I have been thru it and probably wouldn't do it again. View attachment 75156
     
  11. rogue-wave

    rogue-wave Bobtail Member

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    Thank you all for the insight, sounds like the key is to stay under 26000 lbs. maybe I switch my hobby to VW bugs :biggrin_25524:
     
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