Lost reception

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by Harley34, Mar 4, 2011.

  1. Harley34

    Harley34 Bobtail Member

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    Newbie here and I originally posted this in the wrong place.
    Reception been going in and out for a spell. Checked the board and found a couple of cold joints. Resoldiered and it worked great for a bit but now the reception is completely gone. Checked it on another antenna that I know is good and still no reception. Can't identify any other cold joints on the board. Nothing looks overheated. Looking for a good repair shop around the Tri-Cities Tenn. area. There used to be one at the White Pine exit (4) on I-81 but it's no longer there. Thought it moved up toward Greeneville but not sure. Any ideas about a good shop local to Tri-Cities Tn appreciated.:biggrin_25512:
     
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  3. handlebar

    handlebar Heavy Load Member

    What kind of radio is it? And does it have SMD components or regular leaded ones?
    Any chance you left a solder "column" that's standing up tall enough to occasionally ground out against the cover? Try running it without the top cover (the cover that goes over the solder side of the board) and if that fixes it, look from the side for anything that sticks up a bit high from the board.
    Just a thought before you go hunting for a shop.
    -- Handlebar in NC --
     
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  4. Harley34

    Harley34 Bobtail Member

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    Maxum-MCD30 I believe. I'm at work and it's at home or I'd take a look. Not sure what you mean by SMD.... but when looking at the solder side, some of the componants that have multiple solder points in a straight line appear to have a layer of lead which I thought might be corrosion but when I tried to clean it off wth a pick, it wouldn't clean so that may be the lead you're speaking of. I've tried running it seveal times without the cover and no difference. The way I look for cold joints is to take the cover off, turn it on and using a pencil eraser, press on various places on the board to see if I can make it work. All the solder joints are low. I checked for solder bridges and can't find any. My pick goes between all of them down to he board. This has got me scratching my head......
     
  5. handlebar

    handlebar Heavy Load Member

    Ah, OK. SMDs are Surface Mount Devices, little chip-type components with no wires, just silvered ends that solder directly to the circuit board. By "lead", I meant it with a "long E" sound, to denote wires sticking out of them, to distinguish them from SMDs.
    Some of the latest radios out are largely populated by SMDs, partly because the components themselves can be less costly, and because they're easier to program a machine to install in a robotic factory.
    Sounds like you've already done a good job of looking for intermittents. Do you have a wattmeter to see if the radio is still putting out full power? I'm wondering if whatever killed your RX also killed your TX. If they're both weak, and if it's not external to the radio, there are only a few parts common to both halves of the radio. One is the disk capacitor that usually connects the center pin of the antenna connector to the circuit board. If only the RX is bad, you may very well have a coupling capacitor or transistor that has changed value enough (or just outright died) to have weakened the RX. There are usually 3 diodes by the RF amplifier stage at the beginning of the receiver: two to protect the transistor (often an FET) from very strong local signals, and a third "PIN" diode that turns off the antenna signal to the receiver when you're transmitting. An open PIN diode, or either protection diode at the front end, could all cause the history you've described. And as the two protection diodes are usually germanium instead of silicon, they're more sensitive to heat, like from soldering irons.
    Might be worth taking to a shop at this point after all.
    Sorry,
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  6. Harley34

    Harley34 Bobtail Member

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    Well I reckon if I was closer to Statesville, I'd just as soon bring it to you. Anyhow a huge THANK YOU for telling me NOT to take off to the repair shop right yet because I took the cover off again and started pressing around on the solder joints. Well low and behold I found another cold joint and wouldn't you know it, it was on the other leg(s) of the componant that I had re-soldered previously. It either was breaking down too or I didn't localize as well as I thought. Anyhow I heated and added just a tad bit of solder to all six legs and it worked GREAT - until I reinstalled it in the truck. I took it back out, went in the house and set it back up but turned it on before taking the cover off and again it worked fine. I checked for another cold joint but didn't find any although I'm sure there's one there. It's just is not bad enough to reproduce yet. I think the mounting screws are "stressing" the chassis of the radio which is in tun stressing the board and breaking a joint somewhere because when I leave the mounting screws a tad bit loose, it works great. I have a 94 Ranger so you can guess there's practically no room to mount a radio so I made my own mount from 1/8 x 1" bar stock and mounted to the floor just in front of the seat. The uprights must be just a tad out of parallel which would explain a lot. Anyhow we'll see how she does for a spell. I'm still going to go down towards Greeneville tomorrow to see if that CB repair shop is still there. My wife and I like to get out on Saturdays and take short trips either in one of the 4-wheel vehicles or on the bike. BTW, I have and o-l-d Teaberry Mighty "T" - 23 channel crystal controlled that didn't want to hear either. Just like the Maxon, the tx and drive was good according to my meter. Anyhow I took the cover off and lordy day I'd forgot how those things used to look. Anyhow I'd bought this off a friend so I reckon he's had it "worked on" cause there were some corroded joints that apparently had shorted. I cleaned the corrosion and it is back to life. Just for kicks and giggles I took the speaker side off to see if anything had been done there and it looked like it had been peaked and tuned. When I use to use it all the time, I checked it with my meter and remember that it would drive really good. Don't recall the numbers but they were pretty good. Anyhow THANKS handlebar for all your help! Have a GREAT weekend there in Statesville.
     
  7. Harley34

    Harley34 Bobtail Member

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    Something else I have noticed in the past is that if my RX falls off, I can do just a quick key on the mike and it's back to strong as ever and probably will not have to do it again for a while. Does the RX go through the mike? Is this possibly a mike problem? Or maybe a squelch problem?
     
  8. xPosTech

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    The Rcv itself doesn't go through the mike but the Xmit/Rcv switching voltage does. You could have a dirty/noisy PTT switch in the mike or a faulty mike cable. Do you have a spare mike you could try for a day or two to see if that clears it up?

    Ted
     
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  9. Harley34

    Harley34 Bobtail Member

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    I have a spare mike but it's not wired the same cause when I plug it in, all I get is a squeal. It's a good MIke though - Realistic pre- amp that I have on and old 23 channel Teaberry Mighty "T". I read on another site that the Cobra 5 pin plug in will work - not sure of the product number. When I had this readio tuned in '03, the tech showed me a Cobra that worked pretty good but then when he compared the mike performance againt the stock maxon, the Cobra was no better so I didn't get it. Probably should have gotten it anyhow. I posted a question asking which mikes would fit the maxon mcb 30 without re-wiring but haven't gotten an answer yet.
     
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