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    I really don't remember hearing of anyone getting nabbed for having a big radio. The only way the FCC can get you is if you are on a base station(stationary) and you just happen to be the only one with a huge antenna sticking up the side of the house!

    Seriously, do you REALLY think they are gonna show up at a truck stop and KNOW who is talking on what???

    Another BS load! Anything to scare people into conformity. I am not allowed to speed, but can do it anyways. Ever clean paint brushes in the sink? DEP says no!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikenAmyS View Post
    I really don't remember hearing of anyone getting nabbed for having a big radio. The only way the FCC can get you is if you are on a base station(stationary) and you just happen to be the only one with a huge antenna sticking up the side of the house!

    Seriously, do you REALLY think they are gonna show up at a truck stop and KNOW who is talking on what???

    Another BS load! Anything to scare people into conformity. I am not allowed to speed, but can do it anyways. Ever clean paint brushes in the sink? DEP says no!

    We are on this planet for a short time...do what makes you happy.

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    Criminal records don't carry over into the after-life, so why have a clean one?
    Supposedly, there's word out on the streets that at those interstate truck scale houses while getting weighed, the D.O.T. can and sometimes will inspect your radio while holding a list of "illegal export radios" in one hand, ready to nab you if he finds you have a Connex/General Lee/other export non part 95 certified "reddio" with "tham thar extree channels" in your truck. It ca also supposidly happen anytime a bear pulls you over.

    Also so it's said if a ham hears you transmitting on his channel, he'll use his field strength tester to track you down and report your truck number, company, etc. to the FCC which in turn sends out a note (usually to the company you're driving for) saying "if we catch you again we're going to fine you $18,000".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo-T View Post
    Supposedly, there's word out on the streets that at those interstate truck scale houses while getting weighed, the D.O.T. can and sometimes will inspect your radio while holding a list of "illegal export radios" in one hand, ready to nab you if he finds you have a Connex/General Lee/other export non part 95 certified "reddio" with "tham thar extree channels" in your truck. It ca also supposidly happen anytime a bear pulls you over.

    Also so it's said if a ham hears you transmitting on his channel, he'll use his field strength tester to track you down and report your truck number, company, etc. to the FCC which in turn sends out a note (usually to the company you're driving for) saying "if we catch you again we're going to fine you $18,000".
    Um... that's a load of crap.

    If a police officer pulled you over and then arrested you for having a "reddio" as Gadfly puts it... That cop would get laughed out of the court room. And, considering what I do for a living... I know that to be a fact.

    Second, There is no way that some ham operator can get his panties in a wad when he hears someone talking on "them thar extree channels" and can use some #### meter to find out exactly what truck you are in, what truck number you are or what company you work for. And, if Gadfly comes on here trying to say that he can, then he is a #### lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clantonman1983 View Post
    Um... that's a load of crap.

    If a police officer pulled you over and then arrested you for having a "reddio" as Gadfly puts it... That cop would get laughed out of the court room. And, considering what I do for a living... I know that to be a fact.

    Second, There is no way that some ham operator can get his panties in a wad when he hears someone talking on "them thar extree channels" and can use some #### meter to find out exactly what truck you are in, what truck number you are or what company you work for. And, if Gadfly comes on here trying to say that he can, then he is a #### lie.
    There are HUNDREDS of cases on file with FCC.gov where truckers have gotten caught transmitting on 10 Meters. Surely you, sir, are not so simple as to not realize how EASY it is to observe a driver and "match" what he is doing, the words being said, the context of the conversation, AND the truck it comes from. it was, indeed, amateur operators that filed complaints against drivers with the then Counsel for Amateur Enforcement, R. Hollingsworth. In fact the act of "catching" a driver is SO simple as to be astonishing in its ease. I don't want to re-post these hundred or so for time and space sake, but they include Tidewater Transit, Dowell Express, J W Randolph, Tennessee Steel Haulers, United Van Lines, Sfera Metals, Conway, Teaberry, K & K Cartage, UPS, all caught by hams and turned in as a complaint of interference to 10 Meters.
    In addition, non-drivers have also been caught for using illegal "10 Meter" radios and actually fined $10,000 for it. One much publicized case was Pilot Travel Centers that was sent a Notice of Apparent Liability for $125,000! It was negotiated AND PAID (also documented) during a settlement of $90,000. Why did FCC allow the settlement? Because it set a legal precedent they could use against other retailers in other cases. They went after Sparky's, Radioactive Radios, Clay's Radio Shop, and others.

    Just because YOU don't want to hear it doesn't make it untrue! CB operators have NO BUSINESS yakking on 10 and 12 Meters. That's ALL we care about! WE aren't interested in what you do between 27.965 and 27.405: that's YOUR territory. When drivers come up into the ham bands, then it IS our business and we will do our utmost to stop it. A ham that doesn't care about outlaws on his frequencies, thinks its OK for people to yak on 28 MHZ without license does NOT deserve the license, and he will actually trip himself up sooner or later.

    So, go ahead and think how "big and bad" you are because you have an illegal radio. Eventually it will catch up to you, you will be found (probably by a licensed ham that passed you on the highway with "all them funny-looking antennas" and never said a word. But he has recorded your company name, frequency, time/date, road or exit and recorded your voice, too. You will never know until you get called into the office to explain to the boss why you were doing something illegal.

    LIfe's little gambles..................................


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    Well, first of all...

    I don't have to rely on my "reddio" to prove how "big and bad" I am. I'm not even a truck driver, but I do have a "big" gun that I use on a daily basis that does that job for me.

    Secondly, I don't care to talk on your stupid channels. I personally think it's stupid and I also think it's stupid that you come on this forum making such a fuss about it. Since CB channels are "our territory" as you put it and you have such a problem with the people that use them, then maybe you should heed your own advice and stay off our frequency or do you have to make posts like that to make yourself feel "big and bad"? I'm just going to go ahead and assume that to be the case.

    Thirdly, Hundreds of cases on file with the FCC? once again... WHO CARES!!! Just the simple fact that their are "hundreds" should tell you that it doesn't matter!!!

    Fourth, the fact that you or other HAM operators like yourself "try" to catch other people talking on your frequencies, amuses me. GET A LIFE!!!
    Last edited by clantonman1983; 08.12.2009 at 01.11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clantonman1983 View Post
    Well, first of all...

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    Thirdly, Hundreds of cases on file with the FCC? once again... WHO CARES!!! Just the simple fact that their are "hundreds" should tell you that it doesn't matter!!!

    Fourth, the fact that you or other HAM operators like yourself "try" to catch other people talking on your frequencies, amuses me. GET A LIFE!!!
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    ==>FCC WARNS ADDITIONAL TRUCKING FIRMS ABOUT UNLICENSED 10-METER OPERATION The FCC has issued warning notices to five more trucking companies asking them to respond to allegations that their drivers may have transmitted illegally on the 10-meter amateur band. The alleged violations, based on "information before the Commission" as opposed to FCC monitoring, are said to have occurred in North Carolina, Pennsylvania and California. "While many truckers use Citizens Band radio equipment, please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934," FCC Special Counsel for Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth wrote the five firms in late August. The letters were made public September 18. Hollingsworth warned that violators, if caught and convicted, are subject to fines or prison time as well as seizure of their equipment. In three of the cases, the frequency involved was 28.085 MHz--in the CW band--while the other two cases cited transmissions on 28.215 MHz and 28.315 MHz. Hollingsworth asked Teaberry Trucking LLC, United Van Lines, Dowell Express Inc, Con-Way (CWX) Trucking and K&K Cartage to contact him to discuss the matter. In general, trucking company and courier services have responded promptly and positively to similar FCC warnings, indicating that they would warn drivers to refrain from unlicensed use of amateur frequencies. "UPS does not condone using any radio equipment that violates FCC rules," said a statement that went out to its drivers earlier this year after the FCC issued a Warning Notice to the package delivery service alleging unlicensed 10-meter operation. "Employees continuing to use radio equipment that violates FCC rules and UPS policy may be subject to appropriate disciplinary action along with fines or penalties owed to the FCC." UPS also admonished its drivers regarding the use of CB power amplifiers and transceivers capable of operation on both 10 and 11 meters. UPS said violating FCC rules also ignores the terms of its collective bargaining agreement with the Teamsters Union. A New Jersey trucking firm that received an FCC Warning Notice last spring promised to look into the allegations and "immediately remove all illegal equipment" from the truck in question. Gaffney, South Carolina, trucking company J Grady Randolph Inc wrote Hollingsworth earlier this year to say it had also received an anonymous report citing allegations similar to those in an FCC Warning Notice to the firm. Director of Human Resources and Safety W. O. Brown said Grady Randolph immediately advised all of its drivers that it is against the law to operate Amateur Radio equipment without a license. "We feel the problem with 10-meter radios is very widespread in this industry, since most truck stops have them for sale," Brown added. "We will continue to police our trucks in an attempt to prevent future incidents of such violations." While it's uncertain that these and similar admonitions have translated into fewer instances of alleged unlicensed operation on 10 meters by truckers, no further allegations have been raised involving operators of firms, such as UPS, that already have received FCC warning notices.
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    Respectly disagreeing, THE above incidents for which letters were sent WERE the result of hams REPORTING drivers for being out-of-band. Actually, amateur operators can get VERY proficient at using simple DF techniques to "catch" drivers yakking on 28 MHZ. And it was not just in one geographic area, but occurred in North Carolina, Pennsylvania and California. So don't sell the hams short: its the reason why they take tests to LEARN the "innards" of the radio hobby. Some clubs have "fox hunts" where a transmitter is put out and the group goes out to find it. They DO get very GOOD at it. There's been a many an outlaw that boldly declared that, 'them hammies ain't smart enough to catch ME", only to be horrified to find a whole group standing beside his car where he was blocking communications. It is actuallY the other way around! Like I said previously, an interloper CAN be found, mobile or otherwise, and those who think au contraire are the ones less than savvy in the radio art! There's NO "try" to it!!

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    And not once in there was a single episode where they actually tracked down the driver. They are going only by visual inspections by the trucking co. And this was asked by the FCC, who are pretty much anal retentive neurotic ######## who abuse their power to make this country conform to their view by controling actions and speech. You know, like the one guy a while ago did....what was his name?????....oh yeah....HITLER!

    All those trucks going down the road and some braindead HAM operator without a life is gonna pinpoint the exact location of the MOVING vehicle???

    If brains were dynamite, Gadfly wouldn't have enough to blow his nose.

    Don't buy into the scare tactics. I love walking and talking loud. And I'll be ###### before I let ANYONE tell me what channels I can and cannot operate on. I am respectful to people talking and do not walk over anyone while talking....unless they are being pricks about the power of my radio.

    Do you know how many TV stations and radio stations are fined for language or visual content??? Thats because the stations CANNOT get up and move!!!

    Empty threats....by a government agency that we can do without...appointed by a government we DO NOT trust.

    10-4.

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    "In three of the cases, the frequency involved was 28.085 MHz--in the CW band--while the other two cases cited transmissions on 28.215 MHz and 28.315 MHz"


    No trucker that i know or have been in contact with for the last 15 years ever goes into that area and talks! The only place that you will find people talking is up to 27.555 and down to the low side of 19.If these few clowns did talk on the above frequencies then they do deserve a big fine but as a whole cber/truckers do not go there. Hell any time the DX is really strong all you have to do is search the bands and you will find this to be true.

    I wonder how badly licensed hams going on 27.385 and talking using their powerful equipment would get this guys paints in a bunch.........oh that's right. they have that ticket so it's OK!

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    If you stay off 10 meters few will care .....

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    Got $1K Cash if you or any of your ham bone buddies catch this rig.
    Pick a spot and I'll announce my ETA to an area of your choice.

    You'll have about as much luck as the LEO's claiming they snag all radar detectors coming thru their State .

    Dont Sing it,Bring It ! (best hope you bring enough)

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