Has anyone heard of Stryker radios?

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by Roadhound, May 3, 2007.

  1. superman2112ms

    superman2112ms Bobtail Member

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    I bought that radio from the cb shop in west memphis. I like the radio It is a decent performer. However I had doubts about the receive on the radio. I brought it to a shop that came highly recommended from several people. I found that other than converting the radio for cb use they did nothing in reguards to peak and tune. THis is the cb shop behind the petro in west memphis. Again I like the radio alot I do not like the service I got from the shop. If you are looking for a good cb shop go to the one inside the petro on Rt 57 10 miles south of 80 in Illinois. I think its Monee
     
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  3. Carolina Thunder

    Carolina Thunder Medium Load Member

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    You will not like the Stryker if you want to hear people far off. This radio will talk 20 to 30 miles with a good antenna setup but you will be hard pressed to hear them unless they are running big power. The receive is that bad and i know, i have had 4 of them and they all were the same. As far as the new model coming out goes......they did nothing at all to fix the receive problem, it's still very very poor. In the price range you have set i would go with a Connex 3300hp but stay away from the new ones with the mosfet finals and blue signal meter and channel display. They have the same problem as the Stryker although not quite as bad.

    As far as them being illegal.....so is any CB with more than 4 watts out put. So is using any type of ham radio on the CB band. So is talking on a band that you do not have a licence to use. Same old same old! Stay off of the low side, only use it to talk between 26.965 to 27.405 and you will NEVER have a problem!
     
  4. Gadfly

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    Here is the list of radios from FCC's Office of Technology that has been disallowed for sale in the US. When in doubt, look for the "bands" of channels (A, B, C, D, E, F, etc). If there is a "band" switch, the radio is going to be on that list of illegal radios and, thus, is (that word again) ILLEGAL. :biggrin_25524: As new radios come on the market, and FCC gets wind of it, they are tested and added to the list.

    Next, turn the radio around and look for the FCC certification sticker. APPROVED CB radios will have an FCC number on a sticker stating that it meets certain criteria for sale and use. Yet the quickest clue is that "band" switch on the front of the radio. CB radio does not have ANY "extra" channels that may be used by consumers; all other radio resources in the USA M U S T be licensed or have authorization from what is known as NTIA (another regulating agency we might talk about later).

    So here goes the list. Remember: just because a radio isn't on the list (yet) does not mean it is legal to use. That "band" switch on the front of the set is almost a flashing sign that says. "STOP! ILLEGAL RADIO!!!! ILLEGAL RADIO!!!!! ILLEGAL RADIO!!!!!! :biggrin_25523:


    Gadfly


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    ILLEGAL CB TRANSCEIVER LIST
    The FCC’s Office of Engineer and Technology (OET) has evaluated the devices listed below and has concluded that these devices are not only amateur transceivers but can easily be altered for use as Citizens Band (CB) transceivers as well. As such, OET has further concluded that these devices cannot legally be imported or marketed within the United States for the reasons discussed below. Further, the FCC General Council has issued a decision in a specific case involving one manufacturer and has concluded that dual use CB and amateur radios of the kind at issue may not be approved under the Commission’s rules and are in violation of several rules including the RF power level limits of 47 CFR 95.639. (letter from Christopher J. Wright, FCC-OGC to John F. Atwood, US Customs Service, dated May 17, 1999).

    Transceivers used in the Amateur Radio Service below 30 MHz do not require FCC authorization prior to being imported into or marketed within the United States, but transceivers for other services, including the CB Radio Service (CB), do require Commission approval. The transceivers listed herein and other similar models operate in the amateur "10-meter band" and are often referred to as "10-meter" radios or "export" radios. The amateur 10-meter band uses frequencies that are very close to the channels set aside for use in the CB service. Some of the transceivers that manufacturers call "10-meter" radios either operate on CB frequencies as manufactured and imported or are designed such that internal circuits can readily be activated by a user, a service technician or a dealer to operate on CB frequencies. According to Section 95.603© of the Commission’s rules, a CB transmitter is a transmitter that operates or is intended to operate at a station authorized for the CB service. 47C.F.R. § 95.603©. The Commission’s equipment authorization experts in the FCC Laboratory have determined that the transceivers listed herein and other similar models at issue here are intended for use on the CB frequencies as well as those in the amateur service because they have built-in capability to operate on CB frequencies. This capability can be readily activated by moving or removing a jumper plug, cutting or splicing a wire, plugging in a connector, or other simple means. Thus, all the transceivers listed herein and similar models fall within the definition of a CB transmitter. See 47C.F.R. § 95.603©. A CB transmitter must be certificated by the FCC prior to marketing or importation. 47 C.F.R. §§ 95.603©; 2.803.

    Moreover, the dual use CB and amateur radios of the kind at issue here may not be certified under the Commission’s rules. Section 95.655(a) states: "….([CB] Transmitters with frequency capability for the Amateur Radio Services … will not be certificated.)" See also Amendment of Part 95, Subpart E, Technical Regulations in the Personal Radio Services Rules, FCC 88-256, 1888 WL 488084 (August 17, 1988). This clarification was added to explicitly foreclose the possibility of certification of dual use CB and amateur radios, see id, and thereby deter use by CB operators of frequencies allocated for amateur radio use.

    In addition, the Commission’s equipment authorization experts have determined that these devices violate or appear to violate a number of the rules governing CB devices. For example, they may use emission types not permitted, or emit RF power at a level in excess of the levels permitted in the CB radio service. See 47 C.F.R. § 95.639.

    In view of the foregoing, the following "10-meter" transceivers are not acceptable for importation or marketing into/within the United States. Importation and marketing of these units is illegal pursuant to Section 302(b) of the Communications Act and Section 2.803 of the rules. Willful violations of the Rules and the Act may subject the violator to a monetary forfeiture of not more than $11,000 for each violation or each day of a continuing violation. The Commission continues to review this type of equipment, and additional makes and models may be added to this list in the future.

    LIST OF TRANSCEIVERS

    ILLEGAL TO IMPORT OR MARKET



    NOTE FROM QTH.COM: This list was modified to include additional radios. Radios that were added are displayed with a hotlink to the documentation and/or reason for the addition
    CONNEX - models: 3300, 3300 HP, 3300HP-ZX, 3300 PLUS, CX-3800, 4400, 4400 HP and 4800 DXL

    GALAXY - models: DX33HML, DX44V, DX45MP, DX48T, DX55V, DX66V, DX73V, DX77HML, DX88HL, DX93T, DX95T, DX99V, DX2517, DX2527, Melaka, Saturn and Saturn Turbo

    GENERAL - Grant, Stonewall Jackson, Lee, Washington

    MAGNUM - models: 257, 357DX, Alpha force, Delta Force, Mini, S-3,

    MIRAGE - models: 33HP, 44, 88, 99, 2950, 2950EX, 2970, 6600, 9900

    NORTH STAR - models: NS-3000 and NS-9000

    PRESIDENT - models: Grant, J.F.K., Jackson, Lincoln, HR-2510 and HR-2600

    PRO STAR - model: 240

    RANGER - models: AR-3500, RCI-2950, RCI-2950-DX (see below) and RCI-2970, RCI-6300, RCI-6300 Turbo, RCI-6900, RCI-6900 Turbo

    RCI - model: RG-99

    SUPERSTAR - model: 121, 3700, 3900, 3900 HP G, 3900 Gold, 4800, Grant

    TEK - model: HR-3950

    UNIDEN - models: HR-2510 and HR-2600

    VIRAGE - model: 3300, 3300 HP, VX-38, VX-39,

    For further information concerning the listed transceivers or similar models, contact Ray LaForge or Gary Hendrickson at the FCC Laboratory, 7435 Oakland Mills Road, Columbia, MD 21046, (301) 362-3041 or (301) 362-3043 respectively, or E-mail: rlaforge@fcc.gov and ghendric@fcc.gov

    Footnote: The Cobra 150 and 200 "export" radios, tho not on this version of the list, have been added along with certain "Stryker" models. IOW, if they have "bands" of 'channels', it indicates use on the CB band and likely is illegal to sell as well.
     
  5. k7aab

    k7aab <strong>Sticking my nose in all the wrong places</

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    Nice post Gadfly,

    If any one is looking for the best cb on the market I would have to tell them the Galaxy 949 or 959.. actually any of the Galaxy CB models are very good inside and out. Problems with export types are they have manufacturing done in China and they are poorly aligned, filtered, and have sub par parts to keep them cheap, they may look fancy but you are just throwing away money. I have read many comments of happy users of Galaxies. In my opinion that is what I would recomend to anyone today. Cobra was good back in the day but after their seperation from Uniden they have had some problems on manufacturing boards and sub par parts trying to stay "cheap". Uniden tried to raise manufacturing prices on Cobra and Cobra didnt want to pay the cost of quality. If I were to buy anything other than galaxy 949 it would be uniden pc78elite. Wonder why uniden got out of ssb and manufacture only am rigs?
     
  6. Carolina Thunder

    Carolina Thunder Medium Load Member

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    On every single forum i am a member of its always the same thing form the ham guys, it's really no wonder that the number of new hams keeps dropping ever year.

    You ham guys really need to get a life!
     
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  7. squirrellsgnwild

    squirrellsgnwild Medium Load Member

    there are too many cbers using the ham bands illegaly! ie, not having a license, modifying there cb for ham freq. they get on the ham freq and chat it up, and just dont have any respect for ham licensed operators. who says the number is dropping?
     
  8. Gadfly

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    THe numbers of hams ARE ACTUALLY INCREASING! That old thing is dragged out by the CB crowd: "THEM THERE HAMS IS A-DYIN' AN' WE IS A-GONNA GIT 'EM TO OPEN UP THEM CHANNELS FER US CBERS THAR"!!! "The ham hobby is dyin' cuz .............................(fill in the blank)". Well, the numbers remained pretty constant since the 1950's at 600,000 or so, fluctuating according to demographics, etc. It is now around 722,000 (I looked it up!!!) The "ham reddio is a-dyin'" is the same kind of CB myth as coax length and twin antennas on a Totota truck!!!!!:biggrin_25523:

    What the outlaw people interpret as "stuck up and grumpy 'old' hams" is caused by a small segment of CB ops that think they are entitled to "them thar channels" and show up where they don't belong! Hey, if *I* just waltzed in your HOUSE and made myself at home, wouldn't YOU get mad? That's what happens when the outlaw crowd shows up in the ham bands, stealing what the licensed people EARNED by following the law! But NO! How DARE them old hams git upset at us: we is jist SOOOOOO entitled to 'tawk' anywhere we want to. We are SPECIAL!!!!! And them old hams is all stuck up and 'elists" cuz they don't want us on their 'channels'! Well, whoop-de-do!!!!! WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?????? To be welcomed with open arms? Do YOU want a CRIMINAL in YOUR house????? A LAWBREAKER? That's what the outlaws ARE!! And they get the same contempt as any other outlaw! Most rational, civil people would agree.

    Those "dying" hams are no different from anyone else. Somebody tries to STEAL something from them (in this case radio spectrum), they're gonna raise he$$! Those who filched the 10 Meter band and laughed to high heaven about how, 'Why, the FCC ain't gonna bother us special CBers thar; we'uns is just so privileged that we kin jist tawk anywhirs we wants to"---THEY found out right dadgum quick that FCC would act after all. Those FINES we are seeing on the web? Yup, the outlaw crowd messed with the hams' territory enough that they got something done including getting a Special Counsel for Amateur Enforcement appointed to deal with it! I reckon those "dying old hams" are to blame for it, too! Yes! They turned in the outlaws who were on 10 Meters. Yes, they "ratted out" dealers who were selling the illegal equipment that facilitated truckers getting onto the 10 Meter band. However, those outlaws were INSIDE the hams' "house" so to speak. Rational people would not BLAME them for going after the illegals!

    So if YOU want more than that ancient, archaic (and silly) CB radio can do, then EARN the privilege like those "dying" (NOT!) hams did! I just bet when you find just HOW much amateur radio knocks your CB into the weeds, YOU will become just as protective of your EARNED privileges as the rest of the hams are!



    73

    Gadfly
     
  9. MikenAmyS

    MikenAmyS Bobtail Member

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    Two guys I ran with every nite-One had a Stryker-lasted about 6 months and died.

    The other had a Magnum S6 that lasted two months.

    If all you need or want is a basic, then 29s are the way to go. Longevity and durability are their strong suit.

    My first big radio was a Galaxy @$400...lasted 9 months,died, but they did fix it.

    I used a budd's Ranger 6300-F150 and it is still working today and it TALKS!

    I now run my first Connex(4600 Turbo from RadioactiveRadios) and love it.

    You always hear loud radios, but not so proud when it comes to clarity.

    Stay away from Stryker/Magnum-overpriced junk!
     
  10. BUZZSAW

    BUZZSAW Light Load Member

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    I think alot of operators turn those radios up too much ! They try to get all they can from them & MAX those things out. This creates heat & everyone knows heat is an enemy for all electronics. I run a 40 channel CB w/ SSB & enjoy the crap out of mine. I just recently started getting into SSB & am amazed at how far I can talk with 4 watts ! I had always been an AM only operator but, I have now made several contacts & have really started to get into it . :biggrin_25524:
     
  11. Gadfly

    Gadfly Medium Load Member

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    True! They think that EVERY single watt counts and they have to squeeze every ounce of power out when it makes very little difference as to the actual output. Far too many CB shops chop and clip radios to the point that they SOUND horrible while at the same time convincing the drivers they now have this HERE BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG Reddio! If they could hear the thing they'd be shocked! :biggrin_2555:

    Gadfly
     
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