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I purchased 2 dell XPS laptops around Christmas and had the ATT mobile card installed at the factory on both units. I only activated 1 though figuring I would be able to network the 2 laptops together and "split" the signal. This did not work.

ATT did claim to have unlimited usage for 60.00 per month but did mention they have 2 types of towers. 1 which supports data transfers and 1 that supports only voice calls as in a cell phone. I found this to be true in several locations when I was able to use my ATT cell phone but could not use the broadband connection in my laptop.

The ATT card lost connectivity pretty regular on my cross country trip from PA to CA and back and was very frustrating. My wife decided to purchase an air card through Verizon and we ran these 2 systems head to head for a week. Conclusion; Verizon beat ATT hands down for connectivity, length of connections, and speed of downloads. Based upon this I deactivated my ATT subscription and are using the Verizon air card exclusively.

We use the air card for several hours per day switching the card from 1 laptop to the other and have been charged (so far anyway) the 60.00 monthly fee plus the 39.00 activation fee.

As another poster pointed out though Verizon does drop out in sections of Arizona and New Mexico but it held on longer then ATT did.
I have a Dell with the built in AT&T air card and have been really happy with it. Seems to work everywhere with highspeed connections. It even works at home where I have no cell phone service.
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Hey Honua Gal,

1 KiloByte = 1024 bytes =1000 bits per second
1 MegaByte = 1024 KB = million bits per second
1 GigaByte = 1024 MB = billion bits per second

40 MB = 40 million Bytes

I would say approximately 600 MB to 750 MB dowload for a 2 hour movie really depends if the download is compressed. If not, could be more like 1 GB. This would be if you are downloading a movie from the web. If you want to watch just a DVD movie then know problem as long as you have a DVD drive installed.

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With my Sprint Mobile Broadband USB Modem Air card I can click on the Menu tab and select Sprint Broadband Covrage link and I can map a location and check what kind of Sprint data coverage Sprints is claiming to offer like access the web, download content and send pictures and more.

From Los Angeles to Phoenix Hwy 10 average 600 kbps - 1.4 mbps downloads 350-500 kbps upload.

From El Centro CA to Tucson Hwy 8 avearge 50 kbps - 70 kbps download and upload speed. Changes to 600- 1.4mb in Tucson city limits.

Going North to Flagstaff AZ east to Albuquerque NM hwy 40 average 50 - 70 kbps speeds.

Salt Lake City UT to Cheyenne CO hwy 80 mostly roaming-limited access until you get close to Cheyenne city

Seattle to Los Angeles mostly Hwy 90 - Hwy 5 mostly 600 - 1.4 mbps

These are just a few, if you have a specific state or cities let me know I can look up the coverage.

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Thanks, RD.

Went to the Sprint website and under plans, they have two choices:


Any idea how much "40 MB" might equate to usage in layman's terms? For example... watching one movie would be.... how many MB ? It also says "data usage w/out a plan is 3 cents/KB."

I also went to the Verizon website and saw this:[/list]Wow!

Can someone with a Verizon AirCard can give us an idea what your final monthly bill is after they add all of the above to it?
When we had a Verizon Air Card, here's a couple months example of the fees we were charged:

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Taxes & Surcharges
Verizon Wireless' Surcharges
Fed Universal Service Charge .61
Regulatory Charge .08
Administrative Charge 1.40

Taxes, Governmental Surcharges & Fees

FL Communications Services Tax 2.49
Manatee Cnty Comm Srvc Tax .58
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Verizon Wireless' Surcharges
Fed Universal Service Charge 3.91

Taxes, Governmental Surcharges & Fees

FL Communications Services Tax 15.95
Manatee Cnty Comm Srvc Tax 3.72
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Thanks, rd and myminpins.

rdman ~ sound like unlimited is really the only way to go and know for sure what your monthly charges are. The mapping function is cool. I've driven that Flag - Alb route a lot and am not surprised at the low speeds. There's not much out there but a big ol' crater.

myyminpins ~ thanks for the examples. Doesn't look like the fees are nearly as scary as their boilerplate makes it look. It's always better to find out beforehand, though, cuz I am mightily opposed to financial surprises!

Last night, I went to the Millenicom website that was referred to by CMoore2004 on another broadband thread here. They are a reseller for the Sprint broadband. They have no monthly contract and no taxes! It's a straight $49.99/month plus a one-time shipping & setup fee of $53.30 You don't pay for the Franklin CDU-680, (a CDMA EVDO REV A 800/1900MHz DUAL BAND USB MODEM which seems to be getting positive reviews) that they send you. If you don't like the service, you can cancel at any time and return the modem to them. That seems to be it.

They are located in Portland, Ore just across the river from me and I chatted with a tech guy last night. I also looked for reviews other comments on the net, and they're all positive. I think I'll give them a try. (Thanks for the lead, CMoore! )

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Hey Honua Gal,

1 KiloByte = 1024 bytes =1000 bits per second
1 MegaByte = 1024 KB = million bits per second
1 GigaByte = 1024 MB = billion bits per second

40 MB = 40 million Bytes
I hate disagreeing with anyone, but as a professional computer geek these last 15 years, I feel I must step up and set this all straight. Nothing personal intended, rdman.

bits are represented with "little b"
Bytes are represented with "big B"

1 Byte = 8 bits
1 KB = 1024 Bytes = 8192 bits
1 MB = 1024 kBytes = 8388608 bits
1 GB = 1024 mBytes = 8589934592 bits.

40 MB = 41,943,040 Bytes.

Transfer speeds are typically recorded in the KB/MB per second range, and connection speeds are typically recorded in the kilobit or megabit per second range. These are identified by KB/sec, MB/sec, kbps, or mbps respectively.

In order to transfer 1 KB per second, you must have at least an 8kbps connection.
In order to transfer 1 MB per second, you must have at least an 8mbps connection.
In order to transfer 1 GB per second, you must have at least an 8gbps connection.

I say "at least" because there is protocol overhead not counted here. Truly, in order to transfer 1 MB/sec, you must have at least 10mbps connection speed to handle the additional overhead.

My Sprint wireless card averages about 512 kbps which is approximately equivalent to 64 KB/sec. It is typically MUCH faster than dialup (which is UP TO 56 kbps or so, depending on connection quality and data composition) but much SLOWER than cable or dsl or the like. For those who still measure speeds in archaic telco terms, a 512 kbps connection is the same as an 8-channel Fractional-T1, or roughly 1/3 of T1 speed. Still not too shabby, but outdated as far as "broadband" goes these days. My cable modem at home is roughly equivalent to 4 T1's speed.

My only gripes about my Sprint service are that A) The coverage area is substandard where I live (in Dallas- I either have no connectivity or limited throughput) and B) cost - it costs as much as quality cable modem, with much less speed. (My cable modem service is 6mbps) Even still, I have to have connectivity anywhere I go... and unfortunately, Sprint does not fit that bill. I can go out to the hill country back home, and I will not even have basic telephone service, yet everyone with Cingular/AT&T has full bars and full data service.

I would not buy anything from Verizon. I don't really care for the company, and I can't really express why. I had bad experiences with GTE, so I guess that reputation followed the name change.

On the other hand, I would suggest anyone check out Cingular/AT&T for their 3G/EVDO broadband access, they have MUCH better coverage than Sprint and the price is a little less, too. The one thing that worries me there is that it says I can move 5000 MB per month, and anything in excess of that is $0.00/mo. Which makes me wonder... why not just say "unlimited"?

Hmm...
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Verizon says their service is unlimited but they shut my account off for over usage...it did work pretty well everywhere i went...I have sprint now which works well too but it seems like Verizon was faster. Make sure you dont use it in Canada.
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For the bazillionth time, when I got my air card from Verizon last summer, they EMPHATICALLY made sure I knew it was 5 GB a month and that was it. It's in the contract. If you look for it, you will find it. They didn't try to hide it from me but who knows what other agents would do?

If you need truly unlimited, go with Sprint
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If you need truly unlimited, go with Sprint

Yes, because in my experience the only limitation with Sprint isn't the amount of data transferred, but when and where you can transfer that data.


If I take the laptop to the kitchen table, for example... I will be lucky to remain connected. This has been my experience with Sprint over the last several years, in fact. At least voice calls don't sound like you're underwater (as much) anymore.
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I hate disagreeing with anyone, but as a professional computer geek these last 15 years, I feel I must step up and set this all straight. Nothing personal intended, rdman.
Hey PTX, no worries this thread was created for informational purposes we appreciate good information when given in a positive forum.

What Sprint card do you have now? I was told by Sprint that the AirCard 595U Mobile Broadband USB Modem is Sprints fastest and most dependable for accessing connection services for Sprint AirCards. I checked the data, email and mutimedia site and it shows several new future towers going up in Dallas area, not sure when they will be installed

Your right about the AT&T quoting 5000 MB per month and anything in excess is zero dollars? sounds like they might be hiding something why not just say "unlimited" for sure

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