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That's odd, I've never seen a cell tower in pictures pre-1986.

Here you go from wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mobile_phones

First generation
Main article: 1G
The first handheld mobile phone to become commercially available to the US market was the Motorola DynaTAC 8000X, which received approval in 1983. Mobile phones began to proliferate through the 1980s with the introduction of "cellular" phones based on cellular networks with multiple base stations located relatively close to each other, and protocols for the automated "handover" between two cells when a phone moved from one cell to the other. At this time analog transmission was in use in all systems. Mobile phones were somewhat larger than current ones, and at first, all were designed for permanent installation in vehicles (hence the term car phone). Soon, some of these bulky units were converted for use as "transportable" phones the size of a briefcase. Motorola introduced the first truly portable, handheld phone. These systems (NMT, AMPS, TACS, RTMI, C-Netz, and Radiocom 2000) later became known as first generation (1G) mobile phones.
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I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just stating a few facts. AT&T DID have an unlimited plan, and I have no doubt you are still on that plan. With a little searching on the 'net you can find that CDMA is the best for coverage in the United States. After all, Alltel is America's largest network, and they are CDMA. Part of the reason Sprint may not have worked well for you is because of the transition from analog to digital and the "nicer" phones don't tend to have the analog built into them.

And I hate to be Captain Obvious, but I do live and drive in the same country you do, so it's very possible I might just have a slight idea about some of the areas you travel to. As for you usage, I'm not so sure it matters how much you use it or what you use it for--my post didn't say it was absolutely good for nothing.

And I have made my reputation, by backing everything I've said in the past up with facts. In another thread, I posted a dictionary definition of the word "tax", but I was somehow still wrong about what a tax was. If you'd like me to, I could e-mail you my AT&T first month bills. Would that help you? The phone number would even be the same, you could call me up to verify that it really is me at that number.

I've yet to call you a liar. I asked you where you had service that Sprint didn't, as I happen to travel to some of these places and have a GSM phone at home I could use to see if there is in fact GSM coverage where there is no CDMA coverage. Again, I'm not here to argue, but if you want to be rude about the whole thing and me posting what I've learned through my experience, I can argue all day (not in public of course). Every once in a while I'll even argue a point that I agree with. Nothing beats a good debate--except an educated one.
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I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just stating a few facts. AT&T DID have an unlimited plan, and I have no doubt you are still on that plan. With a little searching on the 'net you can find that CDMA is the best for coverage in the United States. After all, Alltel is America's largest network, and they are CDMA. Part of the reason Sprint may not have worked well for you is because of the transition from analog to digital and the "nicer" phones don't tend to have the analog built into them.

And I hate to be Captain Obvious, but I do live and drive in the same country you do, so it's very possible I might just have a slight idea about some of the areas you travel to. As for you usage, I'm not so sure it matters how much you use it or what you use it for--my post didn't say it was absolutely good for nothing.

And I have made my reputation, by backing everything I've said in the past up with facts. In another thread, I posted a dictionary definition of the word "tax", but I was somehow still wrong about what a tax was. If you'd like me to, I could e-mail you my AT&T first month bills. Would that help you? The phone number would even be the same, you could call me up to verify that it really is me at that number.

I've yet to call you a liar. I asked you where you had service that Sprint didn't, as I happen to travel to some of these places and have a GSM phone at home I could use to see if there is in fact GSM coverage where there is no CDMA coverage. Again, I'm not here to argue, but if you want to be rude about the whole thing and me posting what I've learned through my experience, I can argue all day (not in public of course). Every once in a while I'll even argue a point that I agree with. Nothing beats a good debate--except an educated one.
I have traveled with Sprint users who have asked to use my phone to make calls. I drive alot of 2 lane roads in the Northwest. There are many areas that there are no cell services available period. I have chosen the company I use because it suits the needs of my business and home. It makes no difference to me if you like sprint better. It is your choice. I know many people that swear by it and many that swear at it.

You are the one that presents themselves with the wrong atttitude. You demand to know where I run. It is none of your business. You seem to know what kind of package I have, again, it is none of your business.

If you run the major roads, it is probable that Sprint is okay. It would be an advantage for the card as well. It is not where I run. My tax clients all have AT &T therefore consulting between them and myself is totally free for all parties. It would make no sense to change and cause monetary hardship now would it?

I don't drive down the road with my computer on surfing the net so I don't worry about any maximum usuage which they have assured me will not be charged.

So you see, there are many reasons why someone choses to do what they end up doing. I will continue to have the freedom of the no charging between my clients. AT & T was the primary cell company that arrived first into our county. Almost 75 % of the county is with them.
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I had Sprint for the first three years I was driving. I dropped more calls and had more customer service problems with them than any cell phone carrier I've ever used. I currently use AT&T and just recently signed another two year contract when I upgraded my phone. It's nice to not have an account spending limit that will cause your phone to be shut off for going over that amount by one cent. Off the top of my head I can think of at least 6 people who have switched from Sprint to either AT&T or Alltel and are glad they did.

Sprint's "free" roaming is a complete joke. There is no roaming charge so long as your phone is on a Sprint network. If you go to analog (why anyone would even want analog is beyond me) or digital roaming, you will be charged for it. With AT&T (and Verizon, I believe) there is never any roaming charges unless you go to Canada.

CMoore, I'm calling BS on your posts. Although I do love the way you have (in typical 21 year old fashion) managed to become an expert on any and every thread you post on.
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Oddly enough, Sprint's national plans all include roaming on pretty much every carrier there is. I've roamed in several states--I even use my data card while roaming. This was the way it was with lots of phone companies a few years ago. I don't have an account spending limit, so I wouldn't know what it's like to have my phone shut off. Nor do the other two lines on my plan. Perhaps you should update your information, as your information from your first three years is no longer applicable. Would you like me to copy and paste my roaming calls for you to see? People would want analog because it's in the most remote places where there is neither GSM or CDMA coverage, due to the lack of the need to upgrade.

If you had a decent credit rating, you wouldn't have an account spending limit, but we can blame Sprint for you not reading your contract.

Edit: I'd like to add that there are places where Sprint will drop when it seems like you have full signal. CDMA doesn't do hand-offs like GSM does. Going from tower to tower is no problem, but going from one carrier to another will drop the call. If I'm in a rural area where my Sprint signal goes in and out, I'll usually set it to roam only and have no issues.
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Oddly enough, Sprint's national plans all include roaming on pretty much every carrier there is. I've roamed in several states--I even use my data card while roaming. This was the way it was with lots of phone companies a few years ago. I don't have an account spending limit, so I wouldn't know what it's like to have my phone shut off. Nor do the other two lines on my plan. Perhaps you should update your information, as your information from your first three years is no longer applicable. Would you like me to copy and paste my roaming calls for you to see? People would want analog because it's in the most remote places where there is neither GSM or CDMA coverage, due to the lack of the need to upgrade.

If you had a decent credit rating, you wouldn't have an account spending limit, but we can blame Sprint for you not reading your contract.
Yup, I'm completely wasting my time with you.

By the way, I had my Sprint phone still active for a year after I got my AT&T phone. There were far more times that my Sprint phone was searching for service when my AT&T phone had full service.

You copy and paste whatever you want. I still say you're nothing more than a blowhard who thinks he's always right.
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Oddly enough, the same could be said about you. I've posted nothing wrong, and I'm not saying that you have. There ARE areas where AT&T will outperform Sprint, it's not rocket science, but I'd love to see you disprove any one thing of what I've said. I'm not uneducated. You can ask me about politics, and I'll have absolutely no clue. You ask me about networking, computers, and other things I've studied and I'll be glad to converse. I'm not sure why everyone on this forum has to turn things into an argument. I could say I just went to the rest room, but someone would have to disagree because it'd be impossible for me to have gone to the restroom at a time he didn't. I try to learn every chance I get. I ask where he gets coverage that Sprint doesn't and I get an answer that it doesn't matter because I'll just argue the point. There wasn't the slightest chance that I could have used the information on a cell phone forum I'm on to help others decide which carrier to get?
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The reason you find people always wanting to argue with you is because you come off like a know it all who has the best answer for any problem that you post about and then get upset when someone questions your omniscience.

Likewise I'd love to see you disprove anything I experienced with Sprint when I was using them up until November of last year. I guess they've completely revamped their cellular network in the past 6 months?

Also, your comment about my credit rating was completely unnecessary and only added to your shady reputation.
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Where did I get upset? I didn't say anything you said was false. I didn't say they revamped their cellular network. However, it's entirely possible that the handset you used could have been a reason for a lot of the dropped calls. I'm pretty sure I actually agreed that there used to be roaming charges when they implied there wasn't. It wasn't that way with only Sprint. The credit rating thing isn't something I made up off the top of my head. If it's below a certain number, you have an ASL. In many cases, if a customer pays the bill on time for an extended period, the ASL will be removed and the account will be eligible for more upgrades.

I wish I had the best answer for every problem. About 80% of the posts I read, I don't respond to for the simple reason that it's not something I have personal experience with or have educated myself on in the past. The reason I read them? To educate myself.
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In the three years I had a Sprint account, my ASL was never raised or eliminated and I was never late with a payment. I even asked them about this on several occasions.

Also, I never said that you called me or anyone else a liar directly. However, your posts leave an implication to the contrary.

And, I said that you seem to know it all regarding the posts you have made. How the heck would I know what posts you read but don't reply to?
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