over speed policy ( central drivers )

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  1. tangerineGT

    tangerineGT Road Train Member

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    I am gonna go pretty far out here , and say that the percentage of those guys in ditches, is not do to that fact that they wer going 5 mph over the governed speed down a hill.

    It more likely has to do with the fact that they were doing something other the driving (not paying attention) , messing with something , gps, phone, grabbing something off the floor, looking at a map , etc.
    if you look into most of the accidents where guys are in ditches its not after a down slope its either in a turn after a turn , or hell sometimes its on a straight section of road.
    now with that said , I am not the kind of person that is gonna try and take donners pass at 80 , or run down cabbage in Oregon at 80 ,

    Also like said by someone else if gravity pulls one , it pulls the other as well .
     
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  3. Moosetek13

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    Gravity will never pull you up a hill more quickly, only going down.
     
  4. tangerineGT

    tangerineGT Road Train Member

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    Never said gravity pulls you up hill . Thats pretty funny right there :laughing-guffaw:

    The act of gravity ( force to a object or mass )will cause gain of inertia up until the point where there is a opposing force against said object.

    So technically gravity in a sense would cause the affect of being propelled up a hill , but yeah gravity is not gonna literally pull you up a hill.

    Hmm , :biggrin_25524::biggrin_25524::biggrin_25524:
     
  5. Doulos

    Doulos Medium Load Member

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    Gravity can increase your inertia while going downhill and that inertia can increase how fast you make it up the next hill. Therefore, since inertia itself is not a force, the only force increasing your speed is gravity and indeed it is increasing your speed up a hill. This is done as a first year physics experiment in many schools.
     
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    tangerineGT Road Train Member

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    /\ yup pretty much there . I may have worded what I said a bit incorrect , but pysics wasnt my favorite thing . However I payed attention through part of it . Lol
     
  7. koncrete cowboy

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    Too safe is unsafe imo...smokin the brakes on a mountain to avoid a company overspeed is not an option for me...prolly why I have 3..lol
     
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  8. tangerineGT

    tangerineGT Road Train Member

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    Yea pretty much ...
     
  9. Moosetek13

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    Inertia is not a force?

    Inertia is the innate force of matter.
    It is one of the fundamental forces!

    You just said - "and that inertia can increase"...
    Which means, in your own words, that inertia is a force.

    Gravity drags down, into, it never repels upwards or outwards.
    The 'force' of inertia does, however.
    Gravity increases the potential energy, expressed as inertia in this case - which is exerted as the actual force (the kinetic energy) of inertia to keep a mass moving.

    Gravity is to entropy, as inertia is to time.
    The former stops motion, while the latter does the opposite.

    And time, inertia, is winning.
    The universe is expanding at an ever increasing rate, according to the latest estimates.

    Our universe will never contract into another 'Big Bang'. It is destined to die in a cold and ever expanding state of decreased energy.

    Because of the force of inertia, because of the 'force' of Time!
     
  10. Doulos

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    How is it that you apparently believe in Entropic Gravity but then also say that inertia is a fundamental force? First the idea of Entropic Gravity is pretty much a rogue hypothesis, which has failed
    validation. Entropic Gravity predicts that gravity will effect quantum mechanical systems one way while the idea of gravity as a fundamental force predicts that it effect quantum mechanical systems in another. The experiment is in and it agrees with Gravity being a fundamental force. Which is nice, since if Entropic Gravity were true, that would mean that you, me and the rest of the Universe isn't real, but rather just the holographic representation of data. Putting fanciful ideas aside though, by definition a force changes the inertia of a mass. In other words it accelerates matter. Inertia on the other hand is a property of matter that resists that change.

    I unfortunately figured that you understood the very basic ideas I last presented, so that when I said that gravity increased speed up a hill, that you would know that this was a statistical change in speed between a truck that had the benefit of addition gravitational acceleration before going up an incline verses a truck that did not have that benefit. A statistical increase in speed is not the same thing as an acceleration. In fact, both trucks in the example would decelerate up the hill, and at the same rate. But since the inertia (and hence the speed) of one truck was greater when starting the incline it would maintain that speed advantage up the incline despite the deceleration of both trucks. And while gravity would be the sorce of deceleration, it is also the source of the greater inertia in one of the trucks and thus the source of its statistical speed advantage. So, gravity is what causes one truck to be faster (and more efficient) than the other.

    Oh, and inertia is an example of kinetic rather than potential energy...sort of a pet peeve of mine.
     
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    Oh, and as the grandfather on the Jackie Chan show might say "one more thing;" you may want to inform NASA that gravity never propels outward, because they've been doing it wrong. You see, they have been using the gravity of our sun, planets and moons to increase the speed of ships through our solar sytem for quite some time. In fact, the tremendous speed of Voyager was mostly gained in this manner and it has left the outer orbits of our planets. If that isn't propeling outwards, then I don't know what is.
     
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