CR England - Proof of a Predatory Company

Discussion in 'CR England' started by LongHaulHighway, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. LongHaulHighway

    LongHaulHighway Light Load Member

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    I want to point a few things out that new guys really need to look for when people are making claims that contradict the trucking community's consensus on a particular rotten company. Yes, there are countless people who have no business in this industry and will bad mouth the best of companies. However, in the case of CR England, it is a company whose very business model is predatory.

    What is important here, is the realization that CR England is such a foul disease that drivers who are caught in its clutches are too ashamed to admit that they have been duped, as is the case with the driver quoted below. Although anyone who knows how to search and easily find out who made the following quoted statements, I am leaving her username out of this, as the identity of this person is not what is important here.


    DENIAL & CONTRADICTION


    CR England may not have insisted that your husband drive as a team, but your glowing statements of CR England--with the implication that they treat you well--contradict your statements made elsewhere. You stated:

    By your own admission CR England may not "force" you to team, but to climb out of the hole several times your husband had to run as a team/training truck. I also find it interesting that you admit that you're probably not going to stay with CR England and yet you're defending these vermin in your latest post.



    In another post you've outlined what a nightmare it has been to have to train to make a better paycheck. You stated:



    You claim that you've been riding with your husband at CR England for 3 years but an earlier post reveals that to be a lie.

    In a post made by you four months ago (dated 05/15/13) you stated:

    As of today's date, you've been with CR England approximately 21 months, which isn't even two years.



    Quoting you further, we find the reality is that CR England hasn't been good to you at all:



    It is absolutely, positively not the same wherever you go.



    CONCLUSION

    I sense that CR England independent contractors, feeling embarrassed about the low pay they have had to put up with and ashamed that they have been hoodwinked into a malicious lease program by the industry leader in unethical business practices, ignore the reality and simply try to hide behind a smile. No one wants to admit that they have been made a fool of.

    I also sense that the vast majority of these drivers, that we have a responsibility as fellow truckers to assist, are simply not aware that there are much better lease and lease programs out there. I suspect that these drivers simply do not know how to get out of the mess CR England put them in and are rightfully afraid that they will simply be taken advantage of in another company's lease or lease purchase program.

    I can tell you from experience and verifiable evidence, that in this particular situation, the grass actually is greener on the other side and there is a way out of CR England.

    For a list of companies with ethical lease or lease-purchase programs that I personally know people doing well at, and who are willing to provide evidence of their earnings, please review my post here.

    I wish you safety and success.

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    http://www.crenglandclassaction.com - If you leased a truck from CR England / Horizon Truck Sales and Leasing you may be owed damages for being the victim of unethical and deceptive business practices.

    http://www.crenglandlawsuit.com - If you were a CR England student who was paid less than minimum wage you may be owed several thousand dollars in damages.
     
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  3. RookieJ1987

    RookieJ1987 Medium Load Member

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    When I first thought about trucking a year ago, CRE was one in the top of the list. Man i smelled the grime from miles away...
     
  4. fuzzeymateo

    fuzzeymateo Heavy Load Member

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    Another informative post LONGHAULHIGHWAY. Keep up the good work my friend and oh.....you're a very talented writer.
     
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  5. born&raisedintheusa

    born&raisedintheusa Road Train Member

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    How does C.R. England stay in business and NOT face audits and scrutiny from the authorities?

    God bless every American and their families! God bless the U.S.A.!
     
  6. LongHaulHighway

    LongHaulHighway Light Load Member

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    This is the great mystery of life my friend.
     
  7. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

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    Not really proof that CRE is a predatory company ... actually just proves that there is one confused individual that is involved with the company.

    Everybody knows what CRE's pay scale is, it's no secret and it blows. And anybody in CRE will tell you that their IC program is designed so that you have to train or team to succeed. Nothing inherently "predatory".

    Now is CRE extremely mismanaged. From an utilization of labor capital, yeah. From a fiduciary standpoint, only the England's know that, but they do seem to have their toys. And from a company culture, you can only attain a certain level of mediocrity when your company culture is fear of punishment for failure.
     
  8. LongHaulHighway

    LongHaulHighway Light Load Member

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    I can appreciate the sugarcoating but the definition of predatory and CR England's tactics are married.


    pred·a·to·ry
    [pred-uh-tawr-ee, -tohr-ee]
    adjective

    1.
    Zoology. preying upon other organisms for food.
    2. of, pertaining to, or characterized by plunder, pillage, robbery, or exploitation: predatory tactics.
    3. engaging in or living by these activities: predatory bands of brigands.
    4. excessive or exploitive in amount or cost, as out of greed or to take advantage of consumers or patrons: predatory pricing.
    5. acting with or possessed by overbearing, rapacious, or selfish motives: He was cornered at the party by a predatory reporter.


    CR England preys upon the ignorance of drivers fresh out of the womb of their shabby training mills. This is chiefly done in the form of CR England feeding off the cheap labor of students hauling freight for pennies but also in their deceptive and grossly unethical lease program. The monstrosity that is CR England shows a blatant disregard for the clearly defined Fair Labor Standards Act instituted to protect Americans from such predatory employers. This, of course, is only the tip of the iceberg.
     
  9. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

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    It's neither deceptive or unethical ... everything is as stated up front in the contract ... you are paid what you are paid and the pay sucks. CRE can't be held accountable for anyone who gets into a business without doing their due diligence.

    Besides you give them too much credit, assuming that their actions take place with malice and forethought. It's a shoot from the hip, reactionary management culture. That's what leads to the appearance of a methodical planned malicious business practices.

    Drivers aren't sorted out for any special treatment, CRE treats all their employees like crud. And everyone you touch in the West Valley is in a constant state of self preservation ... and they will do anything to survive, lie or tell you what you want to hear, just so you go away or will do what they need your to do for their best interest.

    Those security guards and metal detectors aren't for disgruntled drivers ... they're for the office staff that are on the edge of going postal.
     
  10. born&raisedintheusa

    born&raisedintheusa Road Train Member

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    What you are saying is that C.R. England is more afraid of their office staff than they are of their drivers.
     
  11. bamamac

    bamamac Medium Load Member

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    It is really very simple. If an individual will just use simple addition and subtraction the numbers equal failure. That .14% variable mileage cost is very bad for anyones success . You would have to avg. 3000 miles per week as a solo driver to make ant decent money, and I don't know many companies that can guarantee that. But the numbers do not add up for a lot of companies with lease programs, it is not just CRE.
     
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