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    My 1st time here - I had to give my 2cents

    Well a few of my friends still work there, as for me.....NOT. I was so far behind in my child support I had to quit and work for Burger King . Now I make twice the money and im home every night. Believe this or not. Some of my company driver friends are only averaging 100 miles per day. The reason the dispatchers give them is that the lease operators get the priorty loads, that is a bunch of crap.

    I gave 2 years of my life to that company as a lease operator and only took home time 2x per year for 4 days each. I would have 1 decent pay check (700) every three weeks, the rest of the time it would average from 0 to 300 and some weeks I would owe the company money after driving 1800 miles.

    And out of that you still have to figure out how to pay for meals, scales and a room (when your truck breaks down, frequently).


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    I never worked for cre but I did get a prehire from them when I was in school. after talking to a recruiter I was posative that I did not want to go work there. the way they talk to you and how they kept beating around the bush about miles and pay.

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    Alcohol Issues

    Has anyone had any alcohol related issues with C.R. England?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnglandSux View Post
    Well a few of my friends still work there, as for me.....NOT. I was so far behind in my child support I had to quit and work for Burger King . Now I make twice the money and im home every night. Believe this or not. Some of my company driver friends are only averaging 100 miles per day. The reason the dispatchers give them is that the lease operators get the priorty loads, that is a bunch of crap.

    I gave 2 years of my life to that company as a lease operator and only took home time 2x per year for 4 days each. I would have 1 decent pay check (700) every three weeks, the rest of the time it would average from 0 to 300 and some weeks I would owe the company money after driving 1800 miles.

    And out of that you still have to figure out how to pay for meals, scales and a room (when your truck breaks down, frequently).
    and let me guess you were a solo driver...right ? i really do get so tired of hearing a solo wannabee ##### wine and complain about not being profitable.

    why on earth would you want to have a 130000.00 piece of equipment not paying for it self ? you should keep the wheels turning at all cost of be a company driver. no one twisted your arm to lease a truck. you thought you would show every one how it's done. and you failed, wow.

    I tell every one of my students that they can msg me on my phone any time they want or need advise, but if they say anything about trying to be a solo driver leasing there own truck...i tell them not to bother calling me cas they just wasted my time all month training them how to be profitable in this industry. because my training does not "not" include running solo in your own truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carrot top View Post
    and let me guess you were a solo driver...right ? i really do get so tired of hearing a solo wannabee ##### wine and complain about not being profitable.

    why on earth would you want to have a 130000.00 piece of equipment not paying for it self ? you should keep the wheels turning at all cost of be a company driver. no one twisted your arm to lease a truck. you thought you would show every one how it's done. and you failed, wow.

    I tell every one of my students that they can msg me on my phone any time they want or need advise, but if they say anything about trying to be a solo driver leasing there own truck...i tell them not to bother calling me cas they just wasted my time all month training them how to be profitable in this industry. because my training does not "not" include running solo in your own truck.
    Let me Address this one Paragraph at a Time.

    After 30 days(I had a year and half experiance before i went to CR) of running Solo I told my DM Tyrone Mosley "I want to train! "No Problem Call Training and do Application once Approved we will head you this way" I applied was told "You have a Serious Log Violation reapply in 30 days" 30 days Later I reapplied Was told ("The Same Violation prevented training for a year"). I went About finding a co-driver I sent 5 to Orentation 1 Left Because of being Lied to. 2 Were Sent home for to many Jobs (Although They had put the DAC reported Times and Dates on Application I helped them fill it out) 1 Was told he had to get a trainer for 14 days and then told we together didn't have enough time (He had 6 months OTR) to run a team (They let newbies team up after training) And 1 was talked into leasing his wn truck by being told i was about to be fired. (I worked there 6 more weeks before I turned my truck in at end of lease.) After that I talked to head of Logs was told I could train it was Scheduled . But everytime I got close to yard was sent other way. So becoming a trainer is not a gimmie.


    Not twisted Litterally But unless you go thru thier school or have a L?O already driving for them they won't hire you unless you do!


    Again Some peiople have trouble sleeping behind a newbie Driver I did at CRST and was unsure I could AT CR but was willing to try. As for your Attitude The guy that trained me has suggested against severeal thingsd including CR but never refused to help because I made a bad choice. He does what he can and reminds me next time I say"HMM I know you say uI will regret it BUT!" that I should have listened to him the last time.




    Do what you will but I would stay away from CR England!

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    in a nut shell....keep the wheels rolling at all cost.

    believe it or not not everyone can be a trainer, england don't want trainers that have serious log violations. you have to understand logging to be able to teach someone else.

    you could have hired a co driver of the many listings at the terminals of people just wanting to get exp. and not wanting to run their own truck.

    most hard working people that start their own business will put in unforeseen hours, blood sweat and tears to see their business succeeds. you hirer some one to help, when you get equitady in the business you start turning a profit.

    you cant expect to open up and be successful from the git go. but if you pay attention in school and in training, they give you a lot of tools to use and get a good start.

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    The Logg Violation was a simple misunderstamding, and sfter seeing some what they ca;;ed trainers drive I think they need to revaluate thier requirements

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    Quote Originally Posted by JabberJaws View Post
    The Logg Violation was a simple misunderstamding, and sfter seeing some what they ca;;ed trainers drive I think they need to revaluate thier requirements
    that's kinda what I was talking about. you see england teaches you to talk to your log auditor at least once a month to stay on top of violations. the computer does make mistakes and then theirs human error.

    upon wanting to be a trainer and finding out the requirements you should have called each dept. like i did before applying to be a trainer. that way you know were you stand.

    that's all part of running your business. be proactive not reactive. apply that to everything you do in life and you'll have less heartache.

    my trainer thought me that when a log violation comes to the truck you call in and discuss it because if you believe it's a mistake you should dispute it. i personally don't like getting violations cas i know i'm doing what i'm supposed to to the t but some times i make a mistake while edditing. so you call in discuss it and most of the time they clear it off.

    but i gotta tell ya i did miss the part were you tried to hire a co driver.
    i haven't experienced that so i can't comment on that. but that would suck getting turned down, everyone you sent in....dang. but you know...you gotta stop coming the homes the recruiters already did that ya know. lol

    hey wait a minute....did I say that out loud ? outch sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by carrot top View Post
    that's kinda what I was talking about. you see england teaches you to talk to your log auditor at least once a month to stay on top of violations. the computer does make mistakes and then theirs human error.

    upon wanting to be a trainer and finding out the requirements you should have called each dept. like i did before applying to be a trainer. that way you know were you stand.

    that's all part of running your business. be proactive not reactive. apply that to everything you do in life and you'll have less heartache.

    my trainer thought me that when a log violation comes to the truck you call in and discuss it because if you believe it's a mistake you should dispute it. i personally don't like getting violations cas i know i'm doing what i'm supposed to to the t but some times i make a mistake while edditing. so you call in discuss it and most of the time they clear it off.

    but i gotta tell ya i did miss the part were you tried to hire a co driver.
    i haven't experienced that so i can't comment on that. but that would suck getting turned down, everyone you sent in....dang. but you know...you gotta stop coming the homes the recruiters already did that ya know. lol

    hey wait a minute....did I say that out loud ? outch sorry
    I have read these posts by Carrot Top and my first reaction is where did this guy learn to read and write my second is categorically that he is a company shill.
    I have never read such drivel in my life.
    Clearly you have small ambitions in life. CRE is a starter company. Anybody who stays there is either completely blind, a dedicated loser or enjoys feeding off the bodies of those that are naive and oft times stupid. You seem to fulfill all categories.
    Advocating team driving as the only way to truck is ridiculous. Yes - if you MUST work for CRE by all means, they (meaning CRE not the drivers) thrive on it, but if you live in the truck and are a full time driver meaning it is a way of life and not wanting to go home every 5 minutes NO and again NO.
    I make a much, much better living driving solo as a company driver pulling dry vans than I ever made at CRE.
    I used CRE not the other way around. They are one of the worst companies in the industry along with KLLM, CRST, Transam etc etc.

    ANYBODY THAT OPERATES BY CHEATING AND USING NEW DRIVERS WHO ARE NAIVE AND KEEN IN A REVOLVING DOOR BUSINESS MODEL (THAT IS DESIGNED TO BE JUST THAT) ARE SCUMBAGS.

    Using slick advertising to deliberately sucker people into a losing proposition is what CRE are all about.
    Apologists for them should peddle it somewhere else. I think you are some kind of half assed recruiter with poor writing skills, so beware anybody that reads this fools posts.
    There is real hope in the trucking industry especially right now. CRE is merely a way to enter that industry. If you want to have a life where you are not crammed into a tiny living space with somebody you don't know and can sleep with the truck parked at night work somewhere else. You will make more money working just about anywhere other than CRE, you will also be treated better. The office staff in CRE are incompetant and heartless. The odds of them actually helping you in any kind of constructive way are slim to nothing.
    The training is poor for the maximum amount of dough they can extract from you. It is very organized but then so were the concentration camps.
    Plz do not listen to what this carrot top fool is saying. It is a losing proposition.
    CRE attracts the knuckledraggers and mouth breathers along with a sprinkling of actual intelligent humans. This is why the fallout rate is so high. You throw the net ever so, ever so wide, drag in all the fish and start throwing out all the dross from day one.
    The problem is that there are many working there who's expectations out of life are, shall we say low. Before they had a collection of hairnets and safety glasses as souvenirs from their previous places of employment. So earning $200 a week and working like a dog for it is a step up in life. Don't be that person. Go through the CRE harem scarem routine then at the earliest opportunity LEAVE and get in with a real trucking company.
    Gordon, Heartland, Crete, Averitt all are miles better than dealing with the CRE nazis.
    Good luck and be careful who you listen to. There are a few truly dumb ##### who clearly know absolutely nothing about making a living in trucking who are present. A number of them are posing as 'successful' CRE drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izifaddag View Post
    I have read these posts by Carrot Top and my first reaction is where did this guy learn to read and write my second is categorically that he is a company shill.
    I have never read such drivel in my life.
    Clearly you have small ambitions in life. CRE is a starter company. Anybody who stays there is either completely blind, a dedicated loser or enjoys feeding off the bodies of those that are naive and oft times stupid. You seem to fulfill all categories.
    Advocating team driving as the only way to truck is ridiculous. Yes - if you MUST work for CRE by all means, they (meaning CRE not the drivers) thrive on it, but if you live in the truck and are a full time driver meaning it is a way of life and not wanting to go home every 5 minutes NO and again NO.
    I make a much, much better living driving solo as a company driver pulling dry vans than I ever made at CRE.
    I used CRE not the other way around. They are one of the worst companies in the industry along with KLLM, CRST, Transam etc etc.

    ANYBODY THAT OPERATES BY CHEATING AND USING NEW DRIVERS WHO ARE NAIVE AND KEEN IN A REVOLVING DOOR BUSINESS MODEL (THAT IS DESIGNED TO BE JUST THAT) ARE SCUMBAGS.

    Using slick advertising to deliberately sucker people into a losing proposition is what CRE are all about.
    Apologists for them should peddle it somewhere else. I think you are some kind of half assed recruiter with poor writing skills, so beware anybody that reads this fools posts.
    There is real hope in the trucking industry especially right now. CRE is merely a way to enter that industry. If you want to have a life where you are not crammed into a tiny living space with somebody you don't know and can sleep with the truck parked at night work somewhere else. You will make more money working just about anywhere other than CRE, you will also be treated better. The office staff in CRE are incompetant and heartless. The odds of them actually helping you in any kind of constructive way are slim to nothing.
    The training is poor for the maximum amount of dough they can extract from you. It is very organized but then so were the concentration camps.
    Plz do not listen to what this carrot top fool is saying. It is a losing proposition.
    CRE attracts the knuckledraggers and mouth breathers along with a sprinkling of actual intelligent humans. This is why the fallout rate is so high. You throw the net ever so, ever so wide, drag in all the fish and start throwing out all the dross from day one.
    The problem is that there are many working there who's expectations out of life are, shall we say low. Before they had a collection of hairnets and safety glasses as souvenirs from their previous places of employment. So earning $200 a week and working like a dog for it is a step up in life. Don't be that person. Go through the CRE harem scarem routine then at the earliest opportunity LEAVE and get in with a real trucking company.
    Gordon, Heartland, Crete, Averitt all are miles better than dealing with the CRE nazis.
    Good luck and be careful who you listen to. There are a few truly dumb ##### who clearly know absolutely nothing about making a living in trucking who are present. A number of them are posing as 'successful' CRE drivers.
    Could not have said it better myself.

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