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    Quote Originally Posted by carrot top View Post
    that's kinda what I was talking about. you see england teaches you to talk to your log auditor at least once a month to stay on top of violations. the computer does make mistakes and then theirs human error.

    upon wanting to be a trainer and finding out the requirements you should have called each dept. like i did before applying to be a trainer. that way you know were you stand.

    that's all part of running your business. be proactive not reactive. apply that to everything you do in life and you'll have less heartache.

    my trainer thought me that when a log violation comes to the truck you call in and discuss it because if you believe it's a mistake you should dispute it. i personally don't like getting violations cas i know i'm doing what i'm supposed to to the t but some times i make a mistake while edditing. so you call in discuss it and most of the time they clear it off.

    but i gotta tell ya i did miss the part were you tried to hire a co driver.
    i haven't experienced that so i can't comment on that. but that would suck getting turned down, everyone you sent in....dang. but you know...you gotta stop coming the homes the recruiters already did that ya know. lol

    hey wait a minute....did I say that out loud ? outch sorry
    Ok I will type slow for you. I Drove on Off duty Driving. I realized I had made a error. I called Logs, told them the mistake I had made. Was told "We can't see it till you approve them". I approved Called Back was told" Well we can't fix it since you Approved we meant till you changed status to On duty or whatever it is supposed to be" So BAM a Log Violation. Now who was at fault. Yes I made initial error but Logs told me to approve so they could help. I did I got hung.

    As far as CRE only letting the best be trainer. LOL!!!!! wELL EXPLAIN THIS
    I swapped tralers with a Trainer truck in Idaho at the Loves exit 126 I think was number. Anyway it was a Trucksop you had to get off I 84 turn L/R depending on direction. Make a right to a small 2 lane road(tight) then Right into Parking lot.

    I swapped trailers headed back west. Next morning the Customer service rep Mike Called me pissed off. "Why the Hell did you roll that load"? I responded " "What Load"? The load to Texas I told you was a Hot Load" I said "Mike truck xxxx Swapped me I'm back in Oregon waiting to unload Monday at Walmart". He said " WHAT!!!?" I TOLD THOSE WEEKEND IDIOTS TO not swap this load" Had me Drop my trailer at Pilot and run tio Walmart grab empty reload in Wash and haul ##### to Meet another truck again in Idaho. Bring thier Walmart Load back with me Deliver Both Monday.

    And to top it off the idiot trainer had been driving less that 3 months in his own truck 5 months total. He went Left(Because his TOM TOM told him too) And tried to make a turn onto a alley to get to I 84 according to Tom Tom And dropped left side into ditch of trailer(Was trainer driving)
    Now this is where the story gets good. He then tries to unhook a loaded trailer and rehook from Highside. It rolled. I talked to a friend that had to do CRE as a last resort to get CDL get this the same guy is still training. My buddy told me his Trainer told him the story and he asked why he unhooked he answered"seemed like a good idea at the time. He got off truck and asked for a trainer with min 5 yr exp took him 3 weeks to get 1 after his training He was asked if he was interested in training in a month or so he laughed and said NO!
    BUT CRE ONLY LETS BEST BE A TRAINER RIGHT?

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    I can't explain that. but from what you described (5 months) it was a phase 2 trainer. I was talking about phase 1.

    what I can tell you is it seems you had an unfortunate mishap.
    you here all sorts of stories on here, I just read and most of the time you can clearly see the problem.
    when you posted earlier it wasn't clear what had happened, so it lead to interpretation.
    you didn't specify where you turned in the truck and if it was before your lease was up. so when you said England put a abandonment on your dac...that leads to assuming. if they put something on your dac that's false then you can sue them, why would they bother? but like I said human and computer error happen.
    you wrote your story and i might have read in to it wrong you seem to have a ligament gripe. but you did leave out key information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izifaddag View Post
    I have read these posts by Carrot Top and my first reaction is where did this guy learn to read and write my second is categorically that he is a company shill.
    I have never read such drivel in my life.
    Clearly you have small ambitions in life. CRE is a starter company. Anybody who stays there is either completely blind, a dedicated loser or enjoys feeding off the bodies of those that are naive and oft times stupid. You seem to fulfill all categories.
    Advocating team driving as the only way to truck is ridiculous. Yes - if you MUST work for CRE by all means, they (meaning CRE not the drivers) thrive on it, but if you live in the truck and are a full time driver meaning it is a way of life and not wanting to go home every 5 minutes NO and again NO.
    I make a much, much better living driving solo as a company driver pulling dry vans than I ever made at CRE.
    I used CRE not the other way around. They are one of the worst companies in the industry along with KLLM, CRST, Transam etc etc.

    ANYBODY THAT OPERATES BY CHEATING AND USING NEW DRIVERS WHO ARE NAIVE AND KEEN IN A REVOLVING DOOR BUSINESS MODEL (THAT IS DESIGNED TO BE JUST THAT) ARE SCUMBAGS.

    Using slick advertising to deliberately sucker people into a losing proposition is what CRE are all about.
    Apologists for them should peddle it somewhere else. I think you are some kind of half assed recruiter with poor writing skills, so beware anybody that reads this fools posts.
    There is real hope in the trucking industry especially right now. CRE is merely a way to enter that industry. If you want to have a life where you are not crammed into a tiny living space with somebody you don't know and can sleep with the truck parked at night work somewhere else. You will make more money working just about anywhere other than CRE, you will also be treated better. The office staff in CRE are incompetant and heartless. The odds of them actually helping you in any kind of constructive way are slim to nothing.
    The training is poor for the maximum amount of dough they can extract from you. It is very organized but then so were the concentration camps.
    Plz do not listen to what this carrot top fool is saying. It is a losing proposition.
    CRE attracts the knuckledraggers and mouth breathers along with a sprinkling of actual intelligent humans. This is why the fallout rate is so high. You throw the net ever so, ever so wide, drag in all the fish and start throwing out all the dross from day one.
    The problem is that there are many working there who's expectations out of life are, shall we say low. Before they had a collection of hairnets and safety glasses as souvenirs from their previous places of employment. So earning $200 a week and working like a dog for it is a step up in life. Don't be that person. Go through the CRE harem scarem routine then at the earliest opportunity LEAVE and get in with a real trucking company.
    Gordon, Heartland, Crete, Averitt all are miles better than dealing with the CRE nazis.
    Good luck and be careful who you listen to. There are a few truly dumb ##### who clearly know absolutely nothing about making a living in trucking who are present. A number of them are posing as 'successful' CRE drivers.
    you know izifaddag, as long as we have stooped to name calling... just reading your post you seem to be coming off as an over educated pampas ###. and after rereading them it was confirmed.

    this is a place to tell your story about your experiences you have had with a company. if the first thing you find yourself looking at is spelling? your missing the point completely.

    and btw I don't think you did read my posts because if you did you know I'm only talking about CR England not any other company.

    I do realize what other companies have to offer, and most will not train new drivers. that's fine I will be more than happy to do that.

    I did not say I advocate solo driving as the only way to truck.
    what I was trying to say is "at CR England" being a solo driver is something i do not teach.
    most of our customers want teams to haul their freight. so it's very difucault being a solo driver when our customers neede and wants are changeing.

    when I get on solo drivers I'm only talking about the ones at cre that want to wine about they didn't get miles, didn't make money, and wanted a brand new truck. now they turn it in go to another company and wander why they have stuff on their dac or they owe so much money.

    but you won't be able to see that because your over educated pampas ### can't get past spelling.

    now go drive your BMW and sip your Starbucks (don't forget to raise your pinkie way up) ya dam yuppie !!

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    As I have stated in another post on this site, I would avoid going to CR England at all costs. They sound like a bunch of crooks! If you do decide to go with them, do not lease!!! As a lease operator, you, the driver, are responsible for the truck payments, insurance, fuel, maintenance, and all the other costs associated with leasing, not the company. And if you're truck doesn't move, you don't make a dime!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carrot top View Post

    when I get on solo drivers I'm only talking about the ones at cre that want to wine about they didn't get miles, didn't make money, and wanted a brand new truck. now they turn it in go to another company and wander why they have stuff on their dac or they owe so much money.

    Why would turning in a truck qualify for a bad DAC? red flag, red flag...

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    driving a bmw and drinking starbucks is something you will never do working for a bottom feeder!!!

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    Geez, 'tis the winter of our discontent, eh?

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    Light Load Member carrot top's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by notarps4me View Post
    Why would turning in a truck qualify for a bad DAC? red flag, red flag...
    it's very simple...as a lease operator if you don't complete your lease or don't turn it in properly then you are not fulfilling a contractual / financial obligation. and that can and will be put on your dac report as well as your credit report.

    if you don't pay your student loan then that's not fulfilling a financial obligation. and can be put on your dac as well.

    if you don't complete phase 2 training then you are not fulfilling a contractual obligation.

    basically the company can and will hold you accountable for what you sign. if you don't read or can't understand what your signing then don't sign until you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carrot top View Post
    you know izifaddag, as long as we have stooped to name calling... just reading your post you seem to be coming off as an over educated pampas ###. and after rereading them it was confirmed.

    this is a place to tell your story about your experiences you have had with a company. if the first thing you find yourself looking at is spelling? your missing the point completely.

    and btw I don't think you did read my posts because if you did you know I'm only talking about CR England not any other company.

    I do realize what other companies have to offer, and most will not train new drivers. that's fine I will be more than happy to do that.

    I did not say I advocate solo driving as the only way to truck.
    what I was trying to say is "at CR England" being a solo driver is something i do not teach.
    most of our customers want teams to haul their freight. so it's very difucault being a solo driver when our customers neede and wants are changeing.

    when I get on solo drivers I'm only talking about the ones at cre that want to wine about they didn't get miles, didn't make money, and wanted a brand new truck. now they turn it in go to another company and wander why they have stuff on their dac or they owe so much money.

    but you won't be able to see that because your over educated pampas ### can't get past spelling.

    now go drive your BMW and sip your Starbucks (don't forget to raise your pinkie way up) ya dam yuppie !!
    Dear Stupid,
    Hope you don't mind me using your given name. The "pampas" is an Argentinian plain used for cattle ranching. I think you mean pompous. Look it up.
    At least use the inbuilt spell checker.
    Never been to a Starbucks, drive a Mazda and not in the habit of pinkie raising. You have also misused the word "yuppie".
    No.
    I am just quite simply educated.
    Astonishing that because somebody can read and write clearly they are somehow 'less'. Actually I think the boot is on the other foot. That is if you can't read and write properly you are less.
    Now all those reading this ask yourself, would you sooner take advice from somebody who made CRE work for them i.e. me - OR from an illiterate oaf?
    How can anyone take this person seriously?

    Last count CRE lost in a Utah court that called shenanigans and are currently in court with OOIDA for leasing infractions.

    Enough people here on these various threads have called CRE out on their disgusting business practices and I have put my 2 cents in ad nauseum (for carrot top that is Latin for until I want to throw up).
    I am going to make sure I don't receive anymore daft emails from this forum regarding CRE.
    I have said my piece and if stubborn people who still think it is possible for base metals to be turned into gold (again carrot top that is a reference to the futile medieval practice of alchemy - look it up) wish to ignore mine and others warnings so be it - go for it - have at it and good luck.
    You'll need it!
    The Yuppie

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    I could see if a person had no other options to get some time in by going to this company. The lease deal on a used truck still blows my mind, let alone letting someone with hardly any experience to set them up to fail in a new truck.

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