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All I am asking for is fact not fiction or rumor. I don't like to see anyone discuss a company or a person and not be able to prove that the statements they've made are true.
If I am doing something wrong please feel free to correct me and I'll change whatever I'm doing wrong. Thanks.
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Save your excuses defending Crete . How can the company be responsible ? The same way that other companies allowed or forced HOS violations and both the drivers and management faced felony charges . Note the last entry in this report . [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link.
Rick, I am not defending Crete in any way, shape or form. If you re-read my posts, you'll see that. All I am asking for is proof. Don't want to hear or see rumor or fiction, just prove that:
1. the driver was forced to drive when he shouldnt have, did he inform dispatch that he was unable to drive due to fatigue after coming off his reset?
2. the safety man being unable to drive due to DUI's. Is this true or is it rumor or fiction? How does Skipper know this, let's see proof.
Just show me the proof and I'll apoligise for being wrong till the cows come home but until then I will continue to defend my stand about proof.
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No Skipper, I am not a safety person, and certainly not a man. I don't even work and never have worked for Crete. I was asking for something in the form of proof about things that you've been stating. Very simple, just come up with proof. You continue to say that these things are public knowledge. The accident in Fl. is certainly public. It was plastered all over the news. This is nothing new, everytime there is a fatality truck accident, it is on the national news and in all the papers. If you will re-read my posts I have asked for proof that they "forced" that driver to drive. You didn't reply to my question about the reset that he had just come off of. Do you have proof that the head of Crete's safety dept. can't drive due to DUI's? All I am asking for is cold hard facts not fantasy or rumor. If you can come up with that, then I apoligise but until then I will continue to ask for proof. Remember that by saying things about the safety guy, you better have proof, because I think otherwise its slander. Please correct me if I am incorrect.
It's true . Drivers can't be forced but they can be pressured . [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. .
Now since we're being asked to substantiate things , where did you come up with that restart ? Reports contradict that . Did you read the NTSB report I gave a link to ?
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Some people, myself included, tend to make up our minds after we see cold hard facts. Anyone can come in here and say anything. What's being asked is to back up your allegations with some hard facts and proof.
AMEN!!! That's all I am asking for, is that too much to ask???
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After reading and rereading SKipper's posts I am having trouble believeing that this is his true spelling. Now, Skipper, don't take offense, it's not meant that way. I really think that he's a very intelligent person who does use good grammer and spelling. This is just a front so no one will know the real person. What do 'ya think?
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i as well as rickg have already left several links so why do you peaple try to read them or here a good one just click on the link to read them
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BTW Skipper, your comment about the safety guy is bogus. That was an old old rumor that went around long ago. You really should get your facts straight before you spread things about people that arent true. That's slander isnt it???
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If he specifically said who that safety person was it would be slander at a minimum libel at maximum. He did not identify that person however, so it's neither.
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Not necessarily. By specifying the office, he gave the ability for someone to deduce who the individual was. Especially if he just happens to be the only male in the office.
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Skipper specified that it was "the head safety guy" thats pretty specific to me. LOL
Do you have proof Skipper? That's all I've been asking for is proof...
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