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    thank you Chipperdawg, I am trying to find the link now Denise

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssccrab View Post
    Could anyone tell me how in the world you would fail the Work Well Test?? I was just over at a friends, who has a Smith Multi Home Gym in the basement, which is where I've been working out at. The walls are lined with shelves too (makes for great practice). I loaded up a milk crate-like basket with 50, then 75lbs and rehearsed lifting onto the shelves, and walking with the weights. Maybe it's just different for everyone, but it was pretty easy for me. Sure it's a little work, but it's not hard with determination. The 100lbs push/pull was also pretty easy to accomplish. I guess much of it is cardio as well, which also should be in good shape. Just had to get that out there... I'm done, hah.
    You might already know this, but...

    Don't forget blood pressure. You could be strong, energetic, young, and feel great, and have high blood pressure. If it's high, get to doctors, get on meds, and get a Dr's note. The limit is 140/90.

    Also, it sounds like they check your heart rate while doing the Work Well, so some cardio work would probably be a good idea for some. With your age, you're probably fine.

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    Hey Chipperdawg (or anyone), do they need our birth certificates? and do they need 4 references with addresses (not relatives)?

    I'm having problems finding my B Cert. I have a SS card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman87 View Post
    Hello all,
    I just recently separated from the Navy and am surprised by JUST HOW BAD the economy really is. Because of that, I am looking into trucking. There is a truck driving academy on the other side so now I am looking into Central. What is all of your opionions regarding Central? Coming from the military, I know that every job has it's good and bad. My MAIN concern is mileage. On average, what is to be expected straight out of training? I am not interested in leasing from the company. If I want my own truck I'll go O/O. How is it being a company driver?
    Like I said, my MAIN concern is mileage. If I can pull MINIMUM of 2,000 a week my bills should be fine...but that would be it..by the skin of my teeth. Can I AT LEAST expect 2,000 a week realistically?
    Thanks for the help.
    I haven't been under 2200 miles since starting. Well, except when I broke down in july. Funny, I bitched about sitting labor day weekend but still ended up with2400mi. I'm very vocal (squeeky wheel) for my miles. My dm knows me when he sees me and all is well. My friend has same dm but struggles to get 2k miles.

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    Okay so I just got off the phone with a Central recruiter. Now, keeping in mind that I just got out of the military so I am FULLY AWARE of the cocomamy BS recruiters come up, I wanted to run it all by you before I submit my application and jump into trucking with Central.

    Before I go on, let me first state my situation. Having just separated from the military, my wife and I have spent a significant portion of our lives apart. Not interested in continuing the trend, we are thinking about putting our belonging (those that can't be sold, donated, etc.) into storage so as she may ride with me as a passenger. "Oh, but Iceman, you'd make so much more as a team driver," I can hear you all saying. Trust me, I have seen the number breakdowns, I know. Unfortunately, my wife drives a Scion xB (you know...those boxes/toasters on wheels) and she thinks THAT is too big and scary. There is no way in H*LL that she will be comfortable driving a rig. So she will be passenger.

    Now that that's out of the way...onto the questions I asked the recruiter.
    Question 1: How long after I begin my solo career can a passenger be permitted to ride along? IE: 60/90 day probation period, etc.
    A1: None. A passenger can ride as soon as driver picks up solo truck.

    Q2: Are there any requirements for passengers? IE: age, insurance, etc.
    A2: The passenger must be 18 (which, last I checked, my wife meets). A driver must fill out a form and submit to HR for insurance on passenger. Fee is $11/mo.

    Q3: How long can a passenger ride for consecutively? (Since we'll essentially be living on the truck, I can't have a "3 weeks at a time" rule).
    A3: None. The passenger can ride with the driver indefinitely.

    Q4: How many miles does each truck average?
    A4: Right now they are averaging between 2500-3200 miles/week.

    Q5: Can a driver drive the truck while on personal time? (Seeing as we'll be living in the truck, we'll be taking our "home time" in whatever large city or even small city is in the vacinity. I wanted to know if a driver can use his truck to drive around town bobtailing or if s/he had to depend on taxis, etc.)
    A5: Unknown. The recruiter didn't know the answer. I am hoping some of you can chime in here.

    Q6: As a company driver, who pays for gas, maintenance, repairs, tolls, lumper fees, etc?
    A6: The company pays for everything. (I asked again, to make sure. "Including gas?" His response was yes. Is that true?)

    Q7: When does health insurance kick in and is it free? Does a driver need personal insurance on him/herself or the passenger?
    A7: Insurance kicks in after 90 days and for a family is $80/wk. No personal driver or passenger insurance is necessary.

    Q8: Are personal touches allowed to company owned vehicles? (Personal touches being defined as fridges, microwaves, etc.)
    A8: Yes. They are allowed.

    If any of you could chime in as to the true or falseness of the above Q&A I would REALLY appreciate it.

    Thanks again.
    Iceman
    (Sorry, I have a penchant for rambling)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssccrab View Post
    Yeah, I heard the security interview was a big deal there. I'm glad I at least don't have anything to worry about as far as that, lol. So do you have any pointers for passing the work well test? Was it all pretty strenuous..? Good luck today, I hope everything goes well!
    Work well test is going to be pretty easy for people who aren't short and aren't terribly weak. (I'm short... I struggled a bit. Metal Milk crates were difficult to hold on to if you have sweaty palms!)

    Quote Originally Posted by ssccrab View Post
    Could anyone tell me how in the world you would fail the Work Well Test?? I was just over at a friends, who has a Smith Multi Home Gym in the basement, which is where I've been working out at. The walls are lined with shelves too (makes for great practice). I loaded up a milk crate-like basket with 50, then 75lbs and rehearsed lifting onto the shelves, and walking with the weights. Maybe it's just different for everyone, but it was pretty easy for me. Sure it's a little work, but it's not hard with determination. The 100lbs push/pull was also pretty easy to accomplish. I guess much of it is cardio as well, which also should be in good shape. Just had to get that out there... I'm done, hah.
    You'll be fine. The people who failed were older ladies... There were probably more... but people were leaving so fast that I couldn't keep track.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChromeDome View Post
    Hey Chip, don't sweat the small stuff.
    And its all small stuff....lol

    Driving a truck is not exactly easy, but for the most part not extremly hard eather. Getting the skills down for proper shifting, turning, breaking and backing are what takes time and is the real safety factor.
    I respect when someone goes into it with a little fear. This is a good thing. The ones that go into it thinking it will be a cake walk are the ones that scare me and are a danger.

    A few drivers here and there get into accidents as students or right when they finish training. Most of these accidents are minor and the parking lot type.
    The big accidents occur in the 6 month to 2 year time frame.
    This is when some drivers get over confident. They think they have it all down and know it all. This causes issues.
    Also long time drivers like myself get into a ton of very bad accidents. As soon as a driver looses a health respect for the road and the truck he/ she is a danger. You always have to respect the road, mother nature, and the size/ weight of your truck.
    If you loose that you are an accident waiting to happen.

    I think the miles should start to go up for you guys some soon. The biggest issue is just to #### many trucks on the road driving down rates. Though with low rates will come some lower prices for consumers and maybe more goods being purchased.

    Lastly for you guys in school.
    Keep your heads up, no looking at the ground. As they said in the Army "there is no discharge on the ground"
    If you have a respect for the truck and pay attention you can do well.
    And a little hint if shifting gets the best of you. Shift using your fingertips.
    You cannot grind a gear or force it using your fingers, and it allows you to feel the slot better. If it does not go where you think it should, let the RPMs drop a hair more, if that is not it then bring them up and try again. No big deal. Nobody can shift 10 gears correctly the first time.
    Though if you listen to the instructor, and shift at the RPM they tell you to, it is pretty easy.

    Good luck. If you have questions then put them here. With a few of you in class I will try to read these every day, and I know that JJ will also.
    If we can make your training there easyer with tips here we will. You are sort of a number there, you are a person here.
    Thanks Chrome... I appreciate the pep-talk and the advice greatly!

    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker51 View Post
    You might already know this, but...

    Don't forget blood pressure. You could be strong, energetic, young, and feel great, and have high blood pressure. If it's high, get to doctors, get on meds, and get a Dr's note. The limit is 140/90.

    Also, it sounds like they check your heart rate while doing the Work Well, so some cardio work would probably be a good idea for some. With your age, you're probably fine.
    Actually, the BP cuttoff is 159/99 for a 1 year DOT card, the Dr. checks that in the physical. They also come around first thing with an electronic gizmo and check everybody's while you do paperwork. So it gets checked twice. Mine was 126/92 which is higher than I like it... but the Dr. also realizes that you are stressed, tired, and probably ready to kill over any minute... Yes, they do keep track of your heart rate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman87 View Post
    Question 1: How long after I begin my solo career can a passenger be permitted to ride along? IE: 60/90 day probation period, etc.
    A1: None. A passenger can ride as soon as driver picks up solo truck.

    Q2: Are there any requirements for passengers? IE: age, insurance, etc.
    A2: The passenger must be 18 (which, last I checked, my wife meets). A driver must fill out a form and submit to HR for insurance on passenger. Fee is $11/mo.

    Q3: How long can a passenger ride for consecutively? (Since we'll essentially be living on the truck, I can't have a "3 weeks at a time" rule).
    A3: None. The passenger can ride with the driver indefinitely.

    Q4: How many miles does each truck average?
    A4: Right now they are averaging between 2500-3200 miles/week.

    Q5: Can a driver drive the truck while on personal time? (Seeing as we'll be living in the truck, we'll be taking our "home time" in whatever large city or even small city is in the vacinity. I wanted to know if a driver can use his truck to drive around town bobtailing or if s/he had to depend on taxis, etc.)
    A5: Unknown. The recruiter didn't know the answer. I am hoping some of you can chime in here.

    Q6: As a company driver, who pays for gas, maintenance, repairs, tolls, lumper fees, etc?
    A6: The company pays for everything. (I asked again, to make sure. "Including gas?" His response was yes. Is that true?)

    Q7: When does health insurance kick in and is it free? Does a driver need personal insurance on him/herself or the passenger?
    A7: Insurance kicks in after 90 days and for a family is $80/wk. No personal driver or passenger insurance is necessary.

    Q8: Are personal touches allowed to company owned vehicles? (Personal touches being defined as fridges, microwaves, etc.)
    A8: Yes. They are allowed.

    If any of you could chime in as to the true or falseness of the above Q&A I would REALLY appreciate it.

    Thanks again.
    Iceman
    (Sorry, I have a penchant for rambling)
    From what I have heard today is this: Yes you can have passengers day 1 after you go solo. They have to be 10 or up for summer or 18 othertimes. Trucker cannot drive the truck on personal time. If you live within 50 miles (or maybe its 40?) you don't get to take the truck home on hometime. They DO require that you have a physical address... this could be family that agrees to let you "stay" with them.
    That's about all I know.
    Good luck!


    DAY 2
    Is pretty much classroom time... taking practice tests and such. We need to know chapters 1,2,3,5,6 for our test tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker51 View Post
    Hey Chipperdawg (or anyone), do they need our birth certificates? and do they need 4 references with addresses (not relatives)?

    I'm having problems finding my B Cert. I have a SS card.
    We were told to bring it, so I am bringing it. The majority of the states in the union use vital check (http://www.vitalchek.com). We had to request a copy of lextec's to ensure we had it. I had to get mine before after I finally found out my birth records weren't sealed any more. I have the references, and I guess if I need the addresses, I'll be sending text messages.

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    This scares me too but

    there is nothing in this world that is guaranteed that I've found in my 56 years. It's sort of trial and error until you get it right. But if we don't try, and give it our best shot we won't know if it would have worked out in the end. I hear all the bs about the economy but if I let it all "run me off" I'll get no where, just stay in bed and hide, try to.

    I know about nerves and panic attacks or whatever you want to call them but I choose to believe it is something that is trying to scare us off, keep us from succeeding. I heard again, on a movie the other night. People who have done the greatest things in this world were constantly bombarded with fear and others telling them they couldn't do something. Like the Wright Bros. for example.

    You can do this Chipperdawg, look how far you've come already Kick-### and go for it. Don't listen to the negative crap in your head. I know, I fight my voices everyday a fellow'ette trucker to-be Denise



    Quote Originally Posted by ChipperDawg View Post
    Oh... and Central is in this business to make money. They are now charging a $100 application fee (could be called different).

    65 students x $100 = $6500. And only about half of those people are still here! That is pretty much money for not doing much.... Of course, it makes sense too with the economy the way it is. More applicants... why not take advantage of the situation?

    Edit...
    Maybe not... could be a good reason... I don't know... but Central is a business. People here don't seem to think of it as that. Seems people in the class think that Central is there to help them.
    School is not run by central. It is contracted out. Truck Driving Academy is who actually runs the school.

    Ok... i'm going to bed now. I'm starting to ramble. Sorry Y'all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman87 View Post
    Okay so I just got off the phone with a Central recruiter. Now, keeping in mind that I just got out of the military so I am FULLY AWARE of the cocomamy BS recruiters come up, I wanted to run it all by you before I submit my application and jump into trucking with Central.

    Before I go on, let me first state my situation. Having just separated from the military, my wife and I have spent a significant portion of our lives apart. Not interested in continuing the trend, we are thinking about putting our belonging (those that can't be sold, donated, etc.) into storage so as she may ride with me as a passenger. "Oh, but Iceman, you'd make so much more as a team driver," I can hear you all saying. Trust me, I have seen the number breakdowns, I know. Unfortunately, my wife drives a Scion xB (you know...those boxes/toasters on wheels) and she thinks THAT is too big and scary. There is no way in H*LL that she will be comfortable driving a rig. So she will be passenger.

    Now that that's out of the way...onto the questions I asked the recruiter.
    Question 1: How long after I begin my solo career can a passenger be permitted to ride along? IE: 60/90 day probation period, etc.
    A1: None. A passenger can ride as soon as driver picks up solo truck.

    Q2: Are there any requirements for passengers? IE: age, insurance, etc.
    A2: The passenger must be 18 (which, last I checked, my wife meets). A driver must fill out a form and submit to HR for insurance on passenger. Fee is $11/mo.

    Q3: How long can a passenger ride for consecutively? (Since we'll essentially be living on the truck, I can't have a "3 weeks at a time" rule).
    A3: None. The passenger can ride with the driver indefinitely.

    Q4: How many miles does each truck average?
    A4: Right now they are averaging between 2500-3200 miles/week.

    Q5: Can a driver drive the truck while on personal time? (Seeing as we'll be living in the truck, we'll be taking our "home time" in whatever large city or even small city is in the vicinity. I wanted to know if a driver can use his truck to drive around town bob tailing or if s/he had to depend on taxis, etc.)
    A5: Unknown. The recruiter didn't know the answer. I am hoping some of you can chime in here.

    Q6: As a company driver, who pays for gas, maintenance, repairs, tolls, lumper fees, etc?
    A6: The company pays for everything. (I asked again, to make sure. "Including gas?" His response was yes. Is that true?)

    Q7: When does health insurance kick in and is it free? Does a driver need personal insurance on him/herself or the passenger?
    A7: Insurance kicks in after 90 days and for a family is $80/wk. No personal driver or passenger insurance is necessary.

    Q8: Are personal touches allowed to company owned vehicles? (Personal touches being defined as fridges, microwaves, etc.)
    A8: Yes. They are allowed.

    If any of you could chime in as to the true or falseness of the above Q&A I would REALLY appreciate it.

    Thanks again.
    Iceman
    (Sorry, I have a penchant for rambling)

    Your Wife can join you on the truck as soon as you upgrade, Fees are $125.00 a year.

    Passenger indefinitely is true!

    As everyone has said the miles vary anywhere from 1500-3000 miles.

    As a company driver you DON'T pay for Tolls, any fuel, Scale tickets, Lumpers or Pallets.

    You can buy a power inverter and just have the shop install it to run your electrical things.

    Insurance is pretty reasonable and its through United.

    I'm pretty sure you can't use a Company truck to drive around sight seeing, They wouldn't care if you went to walmart if you are going past one.

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    Q: What were most people being dropped for?
    A: Background checks, background checks, and background checks. I think only one failed the workwell, and two just walked out. So that left us at 15 out of 25. Lost(?) another this morning due to an illness(?), didn't come to class this morning, doubtful that this person will be back, will find out tomorrow. So now we are at 14.

    The workwell test was not difficult, unless you made it difficult on yourself. The push/pull test was easy on the pull, not difficult on the push (I disagreed with the method, but I'm not a pt professional).

    It is important to listen to what is said, and don't take anything for granted. I adopted the attitude that every day is a new challenge and that I am here not only for me but also as a future productive Central employee.

    Day 2 was prep for the written exam for the permit. My advice for day 2 in Fontana/Riverside.... be ready to take that permit test before you get here. A few other students today were not as prepared as they probably should have been, and it showed during pre-testing. Study enough to be prepared to walk into the DMV on your own and take the permit test before you get to school.

    Now time for homework....

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