CR England - The real story

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  1. pete1

    pete1 Heavy Load Member

    Like R. Lee Ermey said about private joker in Full Metal Jacket
    " private Joker is foolish and he's ignorant but he's got GUTS and sometimes guts is enough!!!"
    HOOAH England drivers!!!!!
     
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  3. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    When R. Lee got his own show on The History Channel he used to say, "Let's blow something up".

    SOMEtimes that's what it takes.
     
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  4. Dewey120

    Dewey120 Road Train Member

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    I just blew up the bathroom here at the TA in Santa Nella, CA. Drivers beware!
     
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  5. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    :laughing-guffaw::laughing-guffaw::laughing-guffaw:
    Yer killin' me here amigo.
     
  6. Barefootstallion

    Barefootstallion Bobtail Member

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    I agree with this statement 100%.

    Well, almost 100%

    The "almost" part, is the way to make money in this industry, is to keep the left door closed. You don't do it by sitting in truck stops playing video games or gossiping. You don't do it by spending too much time at home. You do it by getting your loads and driving them. You are paid by the mile, and you get those by driving down the road.

    As to the other that's not "almost", I have this to say:

    I worked for C.R. England for about a year.

    I was off for three years taking care of my grandfather. He was diagnosed with cancer and went down fast. The only way to keep him out of a nursing home was to go home and take care of him. After he passed away, I found it difficult getting another trucking job. Oh, I could get one, but only from companies I despised. Well, then England offered me a job. I'd seen their trucks, they looked like they had pretty good equipment, and they were in Salt Lake (I lived back east at the time, so it meant good miles running back and forth)

    I took the job.

    Almost right away, I regretted the decision. When I got to Salt Lake, the first thing that happens, is I am stuffed into a bunk room with five other drivers. It floored me. Having to sleep with 5 other guys? The snoring, the having to watch my stuff, the smells? It was the last thing I was expecting.

    Then, we started orientation. And I'll never forget this:

    When I had left trucking 3 years before, I was making 33cpm. When England hired me, they started me at 28cpm, and were preaching to all of the new drivers, that "'Length of Haul' will earn you competing paychecks!"

    "Yeah," I thought. "This is bogus. You want to pay us less for more work. You want what you were making before, you have to work more to earn it."

    I got my truck.

    Almost at once, I started receiving these "Lease!!" advertisements over my Qualcomm. They came everyday, often more than once per day. I was floored again.

    Wasn't the Qualcomm a fleet-management tool, used only for dispatches and load-related company business?

    Not so far as England was concerned. It was a tool for advertisement to them!

    Oy! :biggrin_25512:

    When I started for England, despite all of these issues, I had resolved to stay at least six months. Get my foot back in the door for a better job and all that, right?

    During this period, finally sick to death of the lease ads on my Qualcomm, I decided what the hell. I'll take the lease. I'll make just as much money (cause I do have the keep-the-left-door-closed ethic), so why not? Maybe I will actually like it, besides.

    So's, I go and get one of their new Volvos. It was the year that Volvo came out with the new headlight design. 13-speed tranny, 70mph truck, and a very cool looking new truck, besides. Why not? Win win, right?

    Not exactly.

    My business acumen isn't the greatest, so I was thrilled when I found out that they had people there in the office, who would do your book-keeping for you. For a fee, of course, which was acceptable. Nobody works for nothing, and it did promise to make my life easier.

    So I got my truck, started getting my loads, and started logging 4000 miles a week as always.

    Then, I stared taking note of my settlements.

    I was driving just as many miles as before, or near enough where it made little difference, but my takehome had actually dropped by almost 25%. When I asked about this, guess what? I was given a load of bureaucratic gobbledegook about stuff that I had signed, it explained to me in a language only those of Esquire pedigree understand.

    "Cool," responded I. "Here's your truck. I'm done." I had, at that time, been there for my year. Enough time for me to get my foot in the door with a company I wanted.

    Maybe C.R. England is for some people. But if you're serious about your job, your career and the money you're making, then I don't think C.R. England is a company you're going to want.

    For instance, you said you made $800 paychecks weekly?

    I drive 4000 miles myself every week I am given enough loads. But I get paid more like $1350 for them.

    The England brothers are dandies and fops - enriching themselves on the backs of what their father started.

    And speaking of dad, he was one of these crooked SOBs who was killing truck drivers back in the 20's. Drive them exhausted till they wrecked? Yeah, daddy England was one of those. And I promise you, if the England boys could get away with it, they'd be doing the exact same thing today.

    The Englands are greedy crooks. Also, remember the old saying: "Where there's smoke, there's fire"? How many times has England been the subject of class action? They might be pleading not guilty and getting away with a lot, but when you have THAT many people dragging them into court, SOMETHING has got to be wrong.
     
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  7. nicholas_jordan

    nicholas_jordan Medium Load Member

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    I found at least 2 or 3 last night that sound much better than what your report states, and that is not the only report of that nature but it improves CRE 's image for some ~ there ^are^ people that will take that -> it sounds to me like the typical "remote management" rather than any serious lack at core sites ....

    Stevens is probably much better & Estes + 1.800 recruiters and will blow smoke faster than one can answer the phone ..... but never-never-land will put Sue B. Good at Cuttham, Burnhamm & Runn on your case when you go around saying some operation is greedy crooks and for my $.02 it is the screw-offs in the office that do harm .... Gold Cactus Trucking is worse than CRE but we never hear from the people that went there .... try FFE or Estes or http://keimts.com/jobs/training or http://www.tmctrans.com/about
     
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  8. arni

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    I worked for CR England, I don't sit in truck stops, I did not make $800.00 a week. I went through there training, I drove with a trainer for 5 weeks and he was only in a truck for 2 weeks. we were the blind leading the blind. They wanted me to train after I got finished training, I said are you kidding me! So I wanted to be a company driver, they said ok and gave me the ####tiest truck you could imagine. I said you don't have anything better, cleaner, etc... they said nope! Again I did not make $800.00 a week and I was there 7 months. When I want to quit my dispatcher was going to leave me stranded in Kentucky, luckly I filled up the fuel tank because he cut off my fuel card and was going to leave me abanoed. I was able to return the tractor to my terminal so I was not charged with abandonedment on my DAC. England are a bunch of Gangsters in my opinion. If you go to there terminals you have to go through metal detectors and the guards all carry guns. Does this this sound like an up and front company. I am now with a decent trucking company and we don't have guards with guns to protect the employees. England if you STOP screwing people maybe you can drop the guards and weapons.
     
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  9. HardAsNails

    HardAsNails Bobtail Member

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    This is a con.This is an insider. The Feds are catching up with CR England. In Utah people will XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX if,that person is an "Authority"I was trained at Road Masters in WVC. Many of our instructors came from CRE. Non of them had a single good thing to say about thist Co. In fact RM won t let CRE in the door to recruit because they are ####!
     
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  10. HardAsNails

    HardAsNails Bobtail Member

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    XXXXXXXXXXXXXX. If your not a ######,ignore this #######. Trucking has become a freakshow of Idiots.Dont be fooled. If you have an IQ above room temperature you need to run your business as a BUSINESS! Read up on the major carriers,the only ones that hire newbies,and protect yourself because these companies are banking on the notion that you to,are a ######. Think Im wrong? spend just one afternoon at the Truck Stop of your choice and then respond.
     
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  11. Roadopossum

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    Exactly,that's the only way possible
     
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