trailer payload/ gvwr

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  1. wedge542

    wedge542 Light Load Member

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    took my truck and trailer to some cat scales, truck alone 7450 single wheel tri axel trailer 5450 truck gvwr 9300 trailer 21000 wanted to try to keep loads close to 10000 with some room to spare, if maths close im thinking ill have almost 3000 to spare or am i way off ?
     
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  3. mnmover

    mnmover Road Train Member

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    Shouldn't be a problem weight wise, But since the trailer is over 10,000 you need a A License, And I would be careful on following distance till I am sure the brakes are sufficent. Don't forget all those other things like Fire Extingisher, Reflective Triangles, safety chains and breakaway brake line. I'm guessing you have electric trailer brakes. And the DOT number along with a IFTA sticker if you run across state lines. Good Luck, Be safe.
     
  4. wedge542

    wedge542 Light Load Member

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    yea, i got all that already but the ifta. how much you figure i have left on the weight issue?
     
  5. Nedrudt

    Nedrudt Light Load Member

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    So truck plus trailer = 12,900
    26,000 - 12,900 = 13,100/weight you can carry before IRP

    So yes you can haul 10,000 and still have 3,000 to spare but just like what mnmover said I would keep it nice and easy till you know what your equipment can do. But you don't need ifta. Ifta is for 26,001 or more.
     
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  6. Ellijay

    Ellijay Bobtail Member

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    Fixed that for ya
     
  7. CMFofNC

    CMFofNC Bobtail Member

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    I am trying to make sense of this, His truck has a GVW of 7.450 and a GVWR of 9.300 so he can have a hitch weight of 1.950. His GCWR is probably 21.000 max. His trailer weighs 5.450, so his unloaded weight totals 12.900. Take that from his GCWR of21.000 he can haul 8.100? What am I missing, how does 26.000 have anything to do with his MAX weight with a single axel pickup truck. What allows him to exceed his GCVW?
    My F350 DRW has a GVWR of 11.500 and a GCWR of 20.000 and a MAXIMUM trailer weight of 12.400.
    Thanks for helping me make sense of this.
     
  8. FarmerTransportation

    FarmerTransportation Light Load Member

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    Yep. That's the way the DOT explained it to me. Take the GCWR, subtract the truck actual weight, subtract the trailer actual weight and the result is your payload capacity. So in my case, 20,000lb gcwr less 7500 truck less 4700 trailer leaves a payload of 7800 lbs. Looked at another way, the advertised towing limit on the truck is 12,500lbs less trailer weight of 4700lbs leaves 7800lb payload.

    Now my trailer is rated at 14,000lbs. That doesn't mean I can tow (14000 less 4700 ) 9300lbs. It just means the trailer can handle it as long as the truck can. Maybe the next truck will be bigger. To be safe, I limit loads to 7500lbs to account for dunnage, tarps, chains etc.
     
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  9. CMFofNC

    CMFofNC Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for your reply, you have the same understanding that I do. Now I have another question that you may be able to answer. I have been looking at maybe making a few dollars with my F350 and enclosed trailer, maybe even buying a flat deck. I see F350s pulling 40ft and longer trailers with loads that would have to exceed the trucks rated capacity, you will see they have three 7.000lb axles or two 10.000lb axles, how do they get these past the DOT? My trailer has two 3.500lb axles and I have never pulled through a chickencoupe and never been checked while pulling it.

    Thanks for your reply,
    CMFofNC
     
  10. FarmerTransportation

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    anyone is welcome to correct me if I'm wrong, but what I'm told by DOT is that as long as your scaled weight does not exceed your gcwr you are good to go. Length of the trailer doesn't seem to matter. I have 2 7,000lb axles on my 20ft trailer, giving it a 14,000 capacity while my truck's towing cap is 12,500lbs. I'm okay as long as my load doesn't cause the trailer to go over 12,500.
     
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  11. flatbedcarrier

    flatbedcarrier Medium Load Member

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    Incase you guys haven't thought of it lets not forget about tire ratings. Every so often a DOT officer will look at them to make sure they are good for the weight you're at.
     
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