Pickup Truck Cost Per Mile for Expediters

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by stammingerr, Sep 9, 2014.

  1. JChors

    JChors Medium Load Member

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    1.30 a mile in expenses in a class 3 truck? That's more than it cost me to run a class 8 tractor OTR (1.13/mi with my 2012 Cascadia). A used class 3 (1-ton) should run about 60-75cpm to run. Figure in 50cpm to you, the driver, and it still adds up to less than 1.30 per mi.

    A good, used class 3 diesel makes good business sense. Au contrere, anyone who buys a $65,000, decked out, King Ranch F450 to haul R.V.'s is gonna have a helluva time breaking even.
     
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  3. lastone in

    lastone in Light Load Member

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    Yea… Keep in mind that’s all miles. There are no back hauls in RV delivery. I believed that moving over to a Ram truck would add an additional .20 to the bottom line. At first it was, but buying a 100K used truck was the kiss of death. I still see it around and I’m sure it’s making money for someone - just not me.

    Unlike regular trucking the back haul issue continues to challenge that industry. There are a few full timers that do a good job of staying loaded - they are far and few between. I still believe that the people, such as myself, who are doing it seasonally are making the most of it. Driving in winter in a pick-up makes no sense.
     
  4. Tanhands

    Tanhands Light Load Member

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    Last quick off topic question for you. When you are going back mty how are you logging it? Are you just ending whereyou delivered and appearing where you are going to pick up or are you logging all the miles back? I know what you are supposed to do but i am asking what a real world guy does?
     
  5. lastone in

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    ALL MILES. I’m still driving a commercial vehicle. I know there are a lot of wiggle on this, but at the end of the day I don’t need the hassle.
     
  6. LGarrison

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    There are no back hauls in RV delivery. Wrong, there are lots of things to move, you have to get off your butt and find them. I stay loaded 90% of the time on the run back to Middlebury.

    I believed that moving over to a Ram truck would add an additional .20 to the bottom line.
    It's not the truck it's the person that's driving it.

    . Driving in winter in a pick-up makes no sense. I make most of my years money because I do run in the winter.
     
  7. LGarrison

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    I log every mile when I'm running! I log off duty when I'm running around looking for place to eat or find something to do. When home I log off duty when I go to town or hunting / fishing/ hauling in my fire wood.
     
  8. lastone in

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    Let me address LGarrison reply:

    My comment - “There are no back hauls in RV delivery” - If you are doing your own authority or have a deal with your dispatcher for B/H -good for you. The majority, read majority, of delivery drivers do not get ANY back hauls. The ones that do will get around halt of the outbound rate - around .60 - .80 cents a mile. RV delivery companies are not in the business to get you back haul loads. All of you thinking that you will get back hauls - stop asking. It’s not going to happen. Thats just the way it is.

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]From LGarrison: “I believed that moving over to a Ram truck would add an additional .20 to the bottom line. [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]It’s not the truck it’s the person that’s driving it.” You are absolutely correct! Moving to a newer Ram 3500 was a disaster. I sold a paid off Ford for a payment on a newer Ram[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]…. big mistake. Got rid of the Ram and will have a “no Payment” F-350 for next year. Lesson learned.[/FONT][/FONT]
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    From LGarrison:[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]”[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]I make most of my years money because I do run in the winter.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]” So you’re the one. I have always said this is a sessional job at best. April to July is the shipping season. It’s also when the per mile rate stays up. Past July, (this year it was a little different - it went until mid August), most of the deliveries have been made. I want to make sure I get that there are year round drivers, but fighting over the lower paying, bottom barrel deliveries during the off season make no sense. No one will ever convince me that this will ever be a good all year round job. [/FONT][/FONT]
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  9. LGarrison

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    Again this is your opinion, you just run part time. I get paid the same in the winter as I do in the summer.
     
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  10. lastone in

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    Really! The price of diesel has gone down so the rate you are being paid has changed to reflect that. You were getting $1.40- $1.70 back in May-June. It’s now between $1.30 and $1.50. On top of that you’re not moving that much. Your miles are down around 25-60%. It’s winter!
     
  11. wedge542

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    lord if its costing you that much to run a small truck somethings not right at all, you should be in the 60-90 cent pm range at most,no way you can run cheap with them figures.
     
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