Expedite Solutions - scam, deceit, trickery, slavery

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by Pardel, Jan 26, 2008.

  1. Pardel

    Pardel Light Load Member

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    :biggrin_2557: Yes, the truck we were in was leased onto Panther. We had no issues with Panther and would be happy to drive for them again. Our truck brought in good revenue from Panther, our issues were with Expedite Solutions the owner of the truck. We were deceived, tricked, and scammed out of the revenue we should have received from the Panther earning. I will say Panther was a very good company to drive for, it is sad we had to leave Panther because of Expedite Solutions. If you are considering Panther, I would highly recommend them. Tri-State, the company the truck we are driving now in is leased with, is also an excellant company to work for. We have only had good experiences with the Expedite companys we drove for, again our issue was with Expedite Solutions owned by Kyle Ochs only.
     
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  3. Mr_Dude

    Mr_Dude Engineer Of Doom

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    Guy sounds like a real Grade-A Hole......


    I wish you and your husband the best in team driving....Just watch out whenever you are near Union Pacific tracks...I don't want to be the engineer scraping Truck and Trucker parts off the nose of my locomotive because someone was on a "Hot Load" and couldn't stop...
     
  4. TruckingBum

    TruckingBum Light Load Member

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    If we stop is it ok to throw pennys at the train as it drives by for end on end:biggrin_2559:
     
  5. xlbasser

    xlbasser Bobtail Member

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    i hope you are member of o.o.i.d.a they nailed c.r england for illegally holding lease drivers pay . well i hope your new job isn't a nightmare , good luck!!
     
  6. rain1111

    rain1111 Bobtail Member

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    thanks for the info and good words about panther,, i just bought a truck and i'm picking it up on tues and hope to have it working the following week at panther,,:biggrin_25519:
     
  7. Pardel

    Pardel Light Load Member

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    i hope you are member of o.o.i.d.a they nailed c.r england for illegally holding lease drivers pay . well i hope your new job isn't a nightmare , good luck!!

    What is O.O.I.D.A?
     
  8. Pardel

    Pardel Light Load Member

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    What is O.O.I.D.A. ???????

    Yes we are doing well now! We are driving for Expedited Services. They are very good to their drivers and provide new equipment. Our truck is leased onto Tri-State. Freight is a little slow right now (I hear it is everywhere) but we are still making decent money.

    :biggrin_25525:
     
  9. linda

    linda Bobtail Member

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    Hi pardel, we are caught in this big ripp off company that you were in. We cant wait to get out it's been a rough road to follow. I wish we would have had that contract to look over a couple of weeks before we signed things would have been different.:biggrin_25510::biggrin_25510:
     
  10. Pardel

    Pardel Light Load Member

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    Linda, my wife is sick so I am going to anwser this in her place. As far as I can see you are not 'caught' in their trap. You only think you are. If you signed a contract with Expedite Solutions you should immediately copy and paste this url address .in.gov/legislative/iac/T0140 0/A00040.PDF
    Does these requirements conform with your training? Ask to see Stephnie, Chad, Adam, Kyle, and Charles (all must have a CDL teaching instructors license) commercial driving teaching instructors licenses. Check the office as to if there is a CDL school license posted in plain veiw. If the shool does not meet the requirements for an Indiana Commercial Driving School then it is fraud.


    Here are a few points my wife made this is a copy and paste from http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/182/ripoff0182573.htm

    As for 'do not under any circumstances, quit or the situation will get 10 times worse.'! Not necessarily, check Indiana law on driving shools. .in.gov/legislative/iac/T01400/A00040.PDF . It appears to me we all may have a class action against Expedite Solutions?

    It is required by Indiana law that all persons teaching for compensation in a driving school weather it is in the classroom or behind the wheel be licensed by the state of Indiana to teach.

    (4) 'Instructor' means:
    (A) A person weather acting for himself or herself as operator of a commercial driver training school or for any such school for compensation, who:
    (i) teaches
    (ii) conducts classes of
    (iii) gives demonstrations to; or
    (iiii) supervises practices of;
    persons learning to operate or driver motor vehicles or preparing to take an examination for a drivers license; and
    (B) Any person who supervises the work of any other such instructor.

    Sc 13 (a) No person shall give commercial driver training instruction for compensation or act as a commercial driver training instructor unless he or she:
    (1) Holds a valid, current commercial driver training instructor license issued by the commissioner and;
    (2) is employed by a licensed driver training school.
    This section does not apply to any full-time teachers in an accredited high shcool, college or university who has among his or her duties the teaching of driver's educations except when employed as an instructor in a commercial driving school as set for in the Act and these rules and regulations.

    When my husband attended this 'school' the only certified instructor was Shelby,
    (maybe, I know she is a state examiner, don't know about teacher)
    however, Adam, Stephnie, Kyle, Jason, and Chad all were 'teaching' there little spills. Chad took Keith, Bonnie and Gary driving! He is not a certified instructor? Adam, not a certified instructor, Stephnie, nope, not a certified instructor, Kyle, don't remember him having any certificate displayed in plain veiw, my guess, nope, not a certified instructor. Jason, ahhh yes, he was teaching the 30 minutes of mechanics of it', oh yes, they were 'training' him to teach! Nope, guess he wasn't a certified instructor. So people look up the laws on that 'driving school' you are being charged thousands of dollarsfor! See if it really qualifies as a 'school' or is it just a few people who decide, geez, we could make a lot of money if we call this a school and charge people for 'training'! wow, we could also scam them out of their earnings, get them to quit, and charge them even more. Wow what a deal!

    I am just a lay person but by reading the laws even I can see violation after violation if the school is licensed as a 'school'. Of course I do not remember seeing the school's certification that is suppose to be in plain veiw for all students to see. Might of been there, but if it was I certainly missed it. The only thing I remember seeing posted was the letter and post card saying how wonderful Expedite Solutions was sent by 'Charles and his wife'.

    Keiths date of school was Oct 2006, he was trained in a 2000 babycat Freightliner, with over 700,000 mile on it, let see I believe the law reads:
    'Every motor vehicle used for commercial driver training must have a current Indiana registration plate and be a recent model with not more than (5) years having lapsed from the date of purchase. As used in this subsection, 'date of purchase' means the date of purchase listed upon the certificate of title that was received from the application using the manufacturer's certificate of Origin.

    Oh yes, what about:
    Every motor vehicle used for commercial driver training must have the additional equippment as follows:
    (1) One (1) extra operable foot brake (note) EXTRA not 1 period)
    (2) One (1) rearveiw mirror placed on the inside of the vehicle
    (3) Two (2) outside mirrors (1) on each side of truck. (well at least this was right)
    (4) Cushions for the proper seating of students when necessary.
    (b) Every training vehicle being operated by a student must be conspicuously
    marked and visible from all four (4) sides of the training vehicle.
    (c) Every training vehicle must be clean and in good working condition.
    (we were told these vehicles were training vehicles because they were not fit
    to be on the road)
    (d) The school vehicle identification certificate issued by the commissioner must
    be carried in the vehicle at all times while instructions are being given.

    Any of you remember having a 'training' vehicle that meet these requirements? Ours didn't.

    Indiana law states the 'school' must be no less then 16 day or more than 120 day. Keith started the 2nd of October and ended the 13th of Oct. that is 11 days, 5 days shy of the duration required by Indiana state law.

    These are only a few of the issues I am seeing that do not support Expedite Solutions charging my husband 7995.00 for a class B CDL.

    Again, I will state I am not a lawyer, I am a layperson, however things certainly appear shady to me.
     
    donnaj55 Thanks this.
  11. linda

    linda Bobtail Member

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    we have been reading the reports posted on ripoff. it seems that so many people who have quit es before thier contract was complete... are paying big money to es. we would be intrested to know of any couples who have walked away from the contract, and did not have to pay es.
     
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