question about flatbeds and steel coils

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Logan76, Jul 3, 2010.

  1. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    Your interpertation is wrong. You can chain the racks if you want, but it's not a law.


    Again, your personal choice doesn't make it a law or the only correct way to do it.
     
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  3. The Admiral

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    OK,i'm new here but not to the business(steel hauling that is). In the old days the mills gave you what you wanted and they did not hold you to 80K. So we would put a 40 or 50 in the nose and a 40 or 50 in the back. 2 chains on each coil didn't matter suicide or shot gun. We used 1 coil rack per 10K. In 40 yrs i've never put any iron on the ground and know darn few who have either. Part of it has to do with respect for what you are hauling. Also i'm not saying 1 chain per 10K isn't safer. As far as chaining over the rub rail,that 3/8' piece of flat stock has just above no strength,Pockets,spools,chain ties thats where the strength is. Also the later model trailers i've owned do have decals with ratings for all the above. Too many steering wheel holders who drive thier truck as badly as some of the 4 wheelers.
     
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  4. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    friction mats DO NOT stop coils, proper chaining does! I've got so much oil in the well of my trailer I have to shovel the gunk out of it every month. No amount of "Friction Mats" are going to secure a pickled coil, the guys who are really worried about them moving install the posts in the floor like these.
    Oh and nobody there was using "friction mats" under the racks, just conveyor belting between the wood and the paper.

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  5. oldedge

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    LIke your set up. We used coil racks chained down and then the coil against them. One question about the freight shaker with te 2 coils. In Tennessee they won't give you a permit if the load can be broken down. That load could be split up. where was that?
     
  6. The Admiral

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    Ohio sells Piont to Point 120 K permits for steel. Why not use some oil dry? I just tell the loader i want a bag of oil dry.
     
  7. oldedge

    oldedge Light Load Member

    Check 593.106 d 1, 2, 3. you are required to have half of the weight of the load in tiedowns. If a tiedown goes from a point on one side of the trailer to a point on the same side it counts half of the aggregate wwl of the tiedown. If it is attached to the object it is counted half. If it goes over around or through the cargo and attaches to the other side of the trailer then it count as the full WLL of the tiedown. Now is when it gets tricky. The WLL is the WLL of the weakest part of the tiedown. That may be hard to figure out since alot of trailers don't have the securment points labeled. But the chains,binders and soforth are listed in the regs. I could haul a 48000 lb coil with 4 tiedowns and be legal. But you could haul a 20000 lb coil with 4 tiedowns and be illegal. It just depends on the tiedowns. With this csa 2010 it would be smart not to be guessing if you are legal or not.
     
  8. Les2

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    Trashing around at the strip again...:biggrin_25511:

    Shhhhhh! Don't tell them our little secret...:biggrin_25525:
    Oildry would be more of a headache in the trailers with the J-hooks than the oil itself.
     
  9. The Admiral

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    J -hooks are not my favored choice of securement. Ya know old dog new tricks! Maybe a little stubborn. Nice Trailer,i like the matching paint & half flaps. Do you ever hang out over at the Diesel Garage.
     
  10. Les2

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    Yeah thats me. Who's trailer you talking about? I don't think I have any pics of mine here anymore, or do I?
     
  11. The Admiral

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    Picture i see shows a Mac w/blue side kit ,tire rack ect.
     
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