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    Fines for driving over 11

    I was wondering what kind of fines for driving over the designated 11 hours also what can happen besides the fines? Also I did not notice numbered log books messed up a couple of pages and tore them out is this legal are do you just leave them in? I have a stapled log book. Started driving a week ago for hot shot company. Driving a 26 foot GMC 6500 flatbed.


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    buy you self some loose leaf from a truck stop and get a binder. cheeper then a ticket for sure and much easier to only have the past 7 days and current day so 8 days total on you if you ever get checked.
    the 10 $ for the binder and the 31 pages is well worth it . as far as driving after 11-14 hour rules if someone hits you your at fault even if u where sitting at a red light. driving over your hours or after the 14'th hour your on the hook. as said above get a loose leaf and try not to drive over your 11 and after 14 if you can help it if you have to tho the loose leaf will help you for minor issues if they happen but if someone gets hurt your in big big ##### as they can pull the ecm info from the trucks computer.

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    Tickets can run from 100.00 to around 3,000 depending on the location.

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    I've had my logbooks checked at many stations and every one of them have tore out pages...Even handed one guy 2 books as one only had 7 or 8 days in it as I didn't have a new one in my truck and converted a training logbook...I haven't been asked about missing pages....Yet...I tear them out to avoid having pages with white out on them when I mess up since I always seem to add something when I'm at the most tired point in my day(mornings and nights)...I think the white out would draw more scrutiny and I like them neat as can be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutyards View Post
    I was wondering what kind of fines for driving over the designated 11 hours also what can happen besides the fines?
    Fines vary by state & county. Mr. Officer will place you out of service for 10 hours. You will have points inssued onto your CSA2010 profile.... And if you have a accident, even if it wasn't your fault.... You will be at fault & most likely hauled off to jail.

    Quote Originally Posted by cutyards View Post
    Also I did not notice numbered log books messed up a couple of pages and tore them out is this legal are do you just leave them in? I have a stapled log book. Started driving a week ago for hot shot company. Driving a 26 foot GMC 6500 flatbed.
    There is no law saying you can't rip out pages. But their is a law about falsification. If the pages you ripped out have been signed.... And you rewrote the log to look different then the first page.... Then your guilty of falsification.

    A falsification ticket can end your driving career

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    Quote Originally Posted by walstib View Post
    I've had my logbooks checked at many stations and every one of them have tore out pages...Even handed one guy 2 books as one only had 7 or 8 days in it as I didn't have a new one in my truck and converted a training logbook...I haven't been asked about missing pages....Yet...I tear them out to avoid having pages with white out on them when I mess up since I always seem to add something when I'm at the most tired point in my day(mornings and nights)...I think the white out would draw more scrutiny and I like them neat as can be...
    For chrissakes do yourself a favor and run loose-leaf. It's still legal, and sounds like it's your best bet. You DO NOT need the DOT counting your pages. If they do, and find any missing, prepare to defend yourself against fraud. Bad news. If I louse up a page so badly that I'm not happy with it, I leave it in the book and write VOID across it in big letters. Same at the end of the month. Any pages left get VOIDed. In Canada we have to show 14 days logs, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dionysus View Post
    For chrissakes do yourself a favor and run loose-leaf. It's still legal, and sounds like it's your best bet. You DO NOT need the DOT counting your pages. If they do, and find any missing, prepare to defend yourself against fraud. Bad news. If I louse up a page so badly that I'm not happy with it, I leave it in the book and write VOID across it in big letters. Same at the end of the month. Any pages left get VOIDed. In Canada we have to show 14 days logs, btw.
    yup here in the north we need 14 + current day with us all the more reason to run loose leaf. I can put money on it if they want in 14 days they can find something to give ya a ticket for ( MTO in ontario knows when traffic is bad) and will if you piss them off check the traffic to your location and time and if you say you drove across say picking/ toronto on hwy 401 on tuesday at x time and hit london 3 hours later but traffic was moving slow until after the 403 junction mississauga your screwed. the mto/ dot are getting smarter and have more tools now then ever , computers are making our life easier but also making it easier for them at the same time.

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    First, drive legal.

    Second, with stapled logbooks; Mistakes happen. Since I wanted my logbook to look good, I would remove the staples from the logbook, replace the messed-up log page with the cleaner and neater log page, and reset the staples into the logbook. Saved me the expense of buying my own logbooks, since this way I could run exclusively on the company-provided logbooks.

    Finally, drive legal...

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    Where did you get the ticket at?

    Did you get an inspection?

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    Here is a question can you have two log books showing the sam HOS? Have one that you make during the day and making mistakes and then when your done making mistake rewrite in to the other book? or is that still consider running with two log books?

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